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Old 01-22-2021, 04:48 AM
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It also could be scanner settings, not an intentional fix in photoshop. I know I bought a card from Dean's Cards via COMC that mentioned "crease" but wasn't visible in the scan. Bought it and the crease was huge; no funny business, just an unintentionally bad scan. Got a full refund with no problems.

Remember sometimes scanners omit the 1 in "150" on the back of T206 cards. That's not manipulation of the photo in photoshop either, just unintentionally bad scanner settings.

In this case, Heritage should definitely provide better scans since the OP has asked. Sounds like something the consignor would be disappointed to hear is not occurring.
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I don't have a horse in this race, but OMFG!!! That is some serious ass Photoshop bullsh*t!!!!

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It also could be scanner settings, not an intentional fix in photoshop. I know I bought a card from Dean's Cards via COMC that mentioned "crease" but wasn't visible in the scan. Bought it and the crease was huge; no funny business, just an unintentionally bad scan. Got a full refund with no problems.

Remember sometimes scanners omit the 1 in "150" on the back of T206 cards. That's not manipulation of the photo in photoshop either, just unintentionally bad scanner settings.

In this case, Heritage should definitely provide better scans since the OP has asked. Sounds like something the consignor would be disappointed to hear is not occurring.
I can't jump to the conclusion of shenanigans, notably because I agree with the scanner settings assertion. Looking at the ridges of the slab that are on the sides and top of this example in the fine work in the post by JollyElm, it really drives it home how the light from the two scanners is so different.
That said, there's no excuse for a big auction house not to get scanner settings correct to give a very accurate image of every card.

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Holy crap Chris! That's more than just a Deans filter enhancement, what's HA's position on that?
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Starting to smell like a need for BODA investigation on Blowout..

These scans are DISTURBING!
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Living in Canada it took a good month to get to me and in the interim I had made a trade that included it based on the HA scans. Well, when I got it in hand I had to call the other party (long-time collectors and board members) and send them my own images just to make sure they were aware. The deal still went through but I was not impressed.
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Does not make me feel the best about my most recent win in their auction.
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Wow, I would definitely be disappointed to see the card show up with so many creases after seeing that scan.

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I'm sorry to all the Heritage supporters, but that is B.S! Just too blatant to ignore for me, seems like buying from them is a crap shoot based on the scans shown. A hard pass for me.

Might as well give a shout out to REA - anytime I've asked for more scans or had questions they're right on it. Even worked with me on a concern I had with a low dollar card purchased in one of their auctions.

Still can't get over the difference in those scans Chris!

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Nothing new -- people have been complaining forever that Heritage's pics hide/downplay some types of defects. This is one of the more egregious examples I've seen but there have been others for sure.
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Nothing new -- people have been complaining forever that Heritage's pics hide/downplay some types of defects. This is one of the more egregious examples I've seen but there have been others for sure.
I've already assumed the worst with the 52 Bowman Mantle I just bought, now we have to play the waiting game to see what it actually looks like. If it's bad, they'll get a strongly worded email from me, not that it will do much, but at least it will make me feel better. But lets hope for the best.
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Aren't there laws about fair representations?
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I've already assumed the worst with the 52 Bowman Mantle I just bought, now we have to play the waiting game to see what it actually looks like. If it's bad, they'll get a strongly worded email from me, not that it will do much, but at least it will make me feel better. But lets hope for the best.
I hope it all works out for you James. For me personally, I don't have the time or inclination to deal with an AH that plays such games. Still trying (perhaps foolishly) to keep this hobby fun and avoid hassles as best I can.
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OMG!!
That's the kind of photoshopping I would expect to see on a Match.com photo, with the bottom photo being the lady you actually meet.
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After patiently waiting I finally got my winnings from Heritage today. I have to commend them for how well it was packaged. The card was placed inside a larger cardsaver, which was then bubble wrapped and placed in a decently large box with packing peanuts.

I was very nervous as I was opening it, I'm not going to lie, especially seeing some comparisons to what their cards look like on their website as opposed to in hand. However the worrying was for nothing and I breathed a sigh of relief. Here's a picture below of the card, the crease going through Mantle's arm is not nearly as pronounced as I was worried about. This did teach me a lesson though, always check with Net54 before purchasing anything!

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Very good to hear and nice looking card!
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Definitely a nice card. Looks like Heritage's listing accurately reflected the card you'd be getting.
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