Raising the prices on cards

[dio]

Agree, seller have right to change price when no deal has been made. If a player got injured, will you pay the same price to seller when no deal was made yet? After deal is made then it's a different story, seller/buyer should honor the contract. 52 topps mantle made some big jump within few days, probably a few key rookie will follow 51 bowman mantle might be next. Vintage value i think are still way behind if you look how crazy modern card prices jump, there is still a lot of room to move

[sportscardpete]

The worst is when you try and negotiate on ebay and then the seller literally raises the price and tells you sorry too much demand and this card is only going up..

Ya, okay.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by sportscardpete

The worst is when you try and negotiate on ebay and then the seller literally raises the price and tells you sorry too much demand and this card is only going up..

Ya, okay.

I am almost in the middle of one of those now. Except I still want the card. We will see....

As for the BST. It is ALL about communication. I wouldn't expect any seller to honor a price if it was very old. And I think it's fine to raise a price, at any time. if no offers have been made. If a member gets too squirrely over there we can square them away if need be. And if not they can find another forum to screw people over on. BUT I need PM's to help. It annoys me when I hear of bad deals over there only on the main forum. Usually a PM to me will help the process and alleviate one of "those" threads.

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[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by Leon

I am almost in the middle of one of those now. Except I still want the card. We will see....

As for the BST. It is ALL about communication. I wouldn't expect any seller to honor a price if it was very old. And I think it's fine to raise a price, at any time. if no offers have been made. If a member gets too squirrely over there we can square them away if need be. And if not they can find another forum to screw people over on. BUT I need PM's to help. It annoys me when I hear of bad deals over there only on the main forum. Usually a PM to me will help the process and alleviate one of "those" threads.

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We might be competing on that card. Email me if you want to commiserate.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

We might be competing on that card. Email me if you want to commiserate.

Trust me, we aren't.

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[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by Leon

Trust me, we aren't.

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Good, I'd have to bow out. Good luck on your success.

[dio]

Originally Posted by Leon

I am almost in the middle of one of those now. Except I still want the card. We will see....

As for the BST. It is ALL about communication. I wouldn't expect any seller to honor a price if it was very old. And I think it's fine to raise a price, at any time. if no offers have been made. If a member gets too squirrely over there we can square them away if need be. And if not they can find another forum to screw people over on. BUT I need PM's to help. It annoys me when I hear of bad deals over there only on the main forum. Usually a PM to me will help the process and alleviate one of "those" threads.

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yes, happened to me. Thought of making an offer but at the end seller raised the prices, the demand is there. 52 topps mantle has been snatched up quick and prices went up fast on listing. I'm expecting 51 bowman to follow soon or mantle across. It's like the guy that bought the 5 mil 52 topps mantle said, these cards are undervalue if you compare the price hike to modern. There's still a lot of room to grow , i think this is just like the beginning. All of the ones i'm looking at has gone up and I don't see any sign of slowing(key rookies)

[hcv123]

I'm with Ryan, in a perfect world seller would list "expiration date". That said, like others have offered on Ebay - if you can hit BIN you can buy at that price and it should be honored.
BST - drawing that line is tricky - I'd say at least a week for sure. I'd also say it starts to feel like time to ask/negotiate after a month. Between that week and month feels much more gray.

[Luke]

In my opinion once a BST thread falls off the first couple pages, it's dead. I've listed hundreds (thousands?) of BST sale threads and once it's off the first page or two, I forget about it. And 99.9% of the time no one else ever looks at it either.

That's the main thing to consider in my opinion. As a seller, when you list something on the BST, you expect that it's only getting eyes when it's on the first page. When you quit bumping it, you're letting it die. And because it's so rare for someone to dredge up an old thread, it's really not worth the time to find your thread on page 24 and update that the card sold on ebay 2 months after you listed it on the BST.

If a net54 member finds a thread on page 40 or whatever and expects the seller to honor that price, that member is being unreasonable in my opinion.

[Peter_Spaeth]

As is always the case in these matters, one should be guided by common sense, reasonableness, and integrity.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

As is always the case in these matters, one should be guided by common sense, reasonableness, and integrity.

The only problem with common sense, Peter, is it is not so common.

[AGuinness]

Originally Posted by Luke

In my opinion once a BST thread falls off the first couple pages, it's dead. I've listed hundreds (thousands?) of BST sale threads and once it's off the first page or two, I forget about it. And 99.9% of the time no one else ever looks at it either.

That's the main thing to consider in my opinion. As a seller, when you list something on the BST, you expect that it's only getting eyes when it's on the first page. When you quit bumping it, you're letting it die. And because it's so rare for someone to dredge up an old thread, it's really not worth the time to find your thread on page 24 and update that the card sold on ebay 2 months after you listed it on the BST.

If a net54 member finds a thread on page 40 or whatever and expects the seller to honor that price, that member is being unreasonable in my opinion.

Agree with this. Although looking at B/S/T now, most categories have a first page that goes back up two 10-15 days, but a less frequently utilized category may stretch back longer. If it's anything more than 10-15 days but still on the first page, I think it makes sense to inquire if the card is still available in the first place.
I'll also add I would much rather have a system like this, where cards have prices listed with a small risk that the price would be changed due to circumstances, than one where cards listed in the B/S/T all or mostly include "make an offer" instead of pricing.

[fkm_bky]

My $.02 pertaining to the BST is that this Forum and it's members are a community. We should look out for each other, not take advantage. Yes, there are squabbles and I'm sure some people don't care for others, but to me it would be a big douchebag move to dredge up an old post from more than 6 months past and try and get something at a price that is not truly reflective of current market conditions, and be unwilling to negotiate.

I just wouldn't do it and if someone did it to me, I'd probably honor it within reason; but I'd never do business with them again, and likely would do a public outing in a way that others know to go back and review and update all old posts from the past so that you too don't get burned.

You have one reputation and are you really willing to risk it over saving some money?

Great topic and now I'm searching all my old posts where the card I had up didn't sell

Bill

[Vegas Cards]

On some transactions over the last year, I WISH I could go back to the buyer and adjust the price higher.

I'm sure 2020 saw lots of seller's remorse, for all types of assets. Homes, stocks, vintage, and many other types of collectibles have all been trending higher.

My biggest regret is selling some lower graded cards before having replacements in hand. I sold a '56 Mantle PSA 4 last year for what I thought was a decent price and now I'm looking for its replacement as prices keep moving.

[cornhusker]

Sorry- double post

[cornhusker]

Kind of makes my stomach turn a bit thinking about a handful of NM '67 & '61 Mantles and Payton RC's that I sold off just before the feeding frenzy started. I had finally talked myself into selling them to free up some cash for a 206 opportunity. Left a couple grand on the table there and then the 206 deal did not pan out anyway. It included hundreds of great cards glued in a book from a Baltimore estate. Some loose cards also. Timing just didn't work out and it "was not in the cards" so to speak. If only I had consulted my crystal ball or heeded my buddies advice that "there's never a good reason to sell a card". To the question in the op -there's never a good reason to screw over a fellow collector either.

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by fkm_bky

My $.02 pertaining to the BST is that this Forum and it's members are a community. We should look out for each other, not take advantage.

Completely agree. The BST here relies on a degree of community and integrity that is not the norm in arms-length negotiations with strangers and I would not do anything that I would not want done to me. eBay is the wild west: a seller who doesn't update prices or doesn't know what he is selling deserves to lose.

What baffles me are the sellers whose items are not selling and who raise the prices. I've been watching a card that was priced at $1800 and just couldn't bring myself to buy it. After a month or so I check on it and the seller has raised the price $500! WTF?

[ullmandds]

I agree with much of what has been said. But...ultimately it is up to the seller to keep on top of adjusting his/hers sale price as the market changes. And these days market values can change from day to day.

[AGuinness]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

What baffles me are the sellers whose items are not selling and who raise the prices. I've been watching a card that was priced at $1800 and just couldn't bring myself to buy it. After a month or so I check on it and the seller has raised the price $500! WTF?

Also baffling are the people who try to sell something with a posted price adjusted for the bull market run of cards... that they must expect to happen in 2044.

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by AGuinness

...I would much rather have a system like this, where cards have prices listed with a small risk that the price would be changed due to circumstances, than one where cards listed in the B/S/T all or mostly include "make an offer" instead of pricing.

Agreed.

Sellers, please don't ask me to price your cards for you. That's your job.