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Old 01-14-2021, 08:11 PM
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Default Hate to bring up an old topic, but....

saw this on Ebay tonight.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/3-New-York-...4AAOSwjkxgAP0G

Now according to the Yankees Ticket Dating Guide this H Ticket should be for 1940

https://keymancollectibles.com/ticke...atingguide.htm

But you can see the attached note has 1943, and if you pull up game 60 from 1943 the Ticket matches the Sept 5, 1943 game info, so these are 1943 tix, not 1940:

https://keymancollectibles.com/ticke...meschedule.htm

https://www.baseball-reference.com/t...e-scores.shtml

Thus I'm gonna stand by saying that Guide has quite a few errors.
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Old 10-21-2021, 07:49 PM
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more proof the "Guide" is botched:

Explain this Shakir.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/35361766033...p2047675.l2557

This stub "attached" to the scrapbook paper WITH the Box score and game recap, says 1937.

Your "guide"

https://keymancollectibles.com/ticke...atingguide.htm

says this MUST be 1936 in that the NYC only appeared one year on tickets per your guide, 1936.

So how could a stub with articles attached from a scrapbook show its from 1937.

GUIDE IS BOTCHED FOLKS
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Old 10-21-2021, 08:06 PM
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This thread was quite a read. I enjoyed it. A good 15 round heavyweight fight of sorts.

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Old 10-21-2021, 08:31 PM
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This thread was quite a read. I enjoyed it. A good 15 round heavyweight fight of sorts.
"Down goes Shakir, down goes Shakir, down goes Shakir!!!!!!"
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On that most recent one, the NYC removed is described as being on the back.
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Old 10-22-2021, 12:01 PM
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On that most recent one, the NYC removed is described as being on the back.
Inconsequential.

These are blank back stubs.

These type stubs are not shown (should have been included, but not there, why, ask the Guide Master) on the Keyman Guide Site, they show Bleacher, Grandstand, & Stadium, but the info (The Printing Company) and premise should follow to any of the stubs.

These stubs had all the info on the front and the Guide saying the "NYC" was removed on the 1937 stubs (regardless of front or back) is just plain wrong as you can see from my screenshot of the 1937 one attached to a scrapbook paper with 1937 game info.

David argument of info being written wrong on stubs (which granted can happen and did from time to time) can NOT be disputed here. Nothing is written, it's the newspaper showing the date.

I have zero doubts the guide while correct on some years is also very wrong on some years, David knows this as well and has admitted such in this thread. Problem is there are so many tickets slabbed wrong by PSA, it's a giant mess, but rather then fix people just take whatever PSA puts on the label to be correct, and boy it is not in regards to undated Yankees stubs.
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Old 10-22-2021, 12:31 PM
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It’s really cool that the one dude created this resource. I have used it. But if there are aspects of it that are wrong, shouldn’t anyone pointing out problems with it just be met with a huge thank you, I’ll look into it kind of response? And if you look into it and agree, change it. And if you ultimately don’t agree, have a dialog. Maybe you reach consensus, maybe you dont. Seems hard to believe this screaming match has gone on literally for years.
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Old 10-22-2021, 05:29 PM
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Inconsequential.

These are blank back stubs.

These type stubs are not shown (should have been included, but not there, why, ask the Guide Master) on the Keyman Guide Site, they show Bleacher, Grandstand, & Stadium, but the info (The Printing Company) and premise should follow to any of the stubs.

These stubs had all the info on the front and the Guide saying the "NYC" was removed on the 1937 stubs (regardless of front or back) is just plain wrong as you can see from my screenshot of the 1937 one attached to a scrapbook paper with 1937 game info.

David argument of info being written wrong on stubs (which granted can happen and did from time to time) can NOT be disputed here. Nothing is written, it's the newspaper showing the date.

I have zero doubts the guide while correct on some years is also very wrong on some years, David knows this as well and has admitted such in this thread. Problem is there are so many tickets slabbed wrong by PSA, it's a giant mess, but rather then fix people just take whatever PSA puts on the label to be correct, and boy it is not in regards to undated Yankees stubs.

There are SO MANY tickets of many sorts that are slabbed incorrect by PSA. It's a complete schlimazel. Why anyone wants to slab a ticket and respected their assessment and grading of them is beyond me. It's a complete scam and the people who are doing this for them are not the experts by any stretch. It's a complete joke.
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