Hey, pennant guys

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by UKCardGuy

Thanks guys.

Well, what I lack in patience - I make up for in foolishness.

I found the posts earlier in this thread about cleaning pennants and decided to give it a go because the Tigers pennant is fairly cheap and I wanted to practice. I'm pretty pleased with the result.

What may not have been obvious from the "before" photo was some pretty bad discoloration above the tiger and at the tip.

I covered the spine and laid the pennant flat in the bath and then sprayed the bleach. Then I ran it under the faucet to rinse it off. I think next time, I'll tape it on the shower wall like Rob suggests. The black ink ran a little bit, but as others mentioned I used copious amounts of water and that rinsed off with no problem.

I think I've now achieved blissful over-confidence so I'll probably gamble with the Yankees pennant. The photo on the pennant looks to be fastened with staples so I don't think it will be too tough to get if off for cleaning.

Here's a nice compliment to Gary's Tigers Pennant. I didn't want to out the auction while it was live (and mess up someone's chances of winning), but this is one you rarely see.... a near perfect match!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-194...p2047675.l2557

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Here's a nice compliment to Gary's Tigers Pennant. I didn't want to out the auction while it was live (and mess up someone's chances of winning), but this is one you rarely see.... a near perfect match!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-194...p2047675.l2557

That is a cool one!

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Here's a nice compliment to Gary's Tigers Pennant. I didn't want to out the auction while it was live (and mess up someone's chances of winning), but this is one you rarely see.... a near perfect match!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-194...p2047675.l2557

I offered the seller $100 for it. It's quite a bit dirtier than it appears in that pic but super rare. He didn't reply and it ended up selling for $43 (not to me). Oh well...

[UKCardGuy]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

I offered the seller $100 for it. It's quite a bit dirtier than it appears in that pic but super rare. He didn't reply and it ended up selling for $43 (not to me). Oh well...

That's a nice one. I'm guessing it could be cleaned up to look much better.

[ooo-ribay]

Would it be safe to say that artwork on pennants pretty much disappeared in the mid-60s? By "artwork," I mean stadiums, players, etc. and not logos or stand alone helmets.

Here's an evolution of Giants pennants. !962 NL Champs with the cartoon font; 1960's pennant with same font, showing an un-enclosed Candlestick; early 70's pennant showing Candlestick enclosed; stiff, synthetic pennant with leftover graphics and, finally, a 1970's logo only pennant.

I really can't think of any Giants pennants past the mid-60's with any new graphics. They are all just logos and print. Is it the same with other teams?

[perezfan]

Most teams had fresh logos and artistry through 1968 or so. Then in 1969, it became regulated, boring and corporate. By 1970, all artistry and creativity were gone.

There are some rare exceptions, such as that series with the Rangers (Batting Cowboy), Mariners (Mermaid), Brewers (Barrel Guy) and Padres (Friar Head). I suppose that group would be the “last hurrah” for originality.

Really sad... I wonder what became of the artists, and hope they landed on their feet (AdFlag guy not withstanding).

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Most teams had fresh logos and artistry through 1968 or so. Then in 1969, it became regulated, boring and corporate. By 1970, all artistry and creativity were gone.

There are some rare exceptions, such as that series with the Rangers (Batting Cowboy), Mariners (Mermaid), Brewers (Barrel Guy) and Padres (Friar Head). I suppose that group would be the “last hurrah” for originality.

Really sad... I wonder what became of the artists, and hope they landed on their feet (AdFlag guy not withstanding).

Even “Barrel Guy” was kind of a team logo, no?

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

Even “Barrel Guy” was kind of a team logo, no?

I meant this series from the 70s....

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Most teams had fresh logos and artistry through 1968 or so. Then in 1969, it became regulated, boring and corporate. By 1970, all artistry and creativity were gone.

There are some rare exceptions, such as that series with the Rangers (Batting Cowboy), Mariners (Mermaid), Brewers (Barrel Guy) and Padres (Friar Head). I suppose that group would be the “last hurrah” for originality.

Really sad... I wonder what became of the artists, and hope they landed on their feet (AdFlag guy not withstanding).

Oh, I thought you meant this "barrel guy." If I'm not mistaken they are using this logo these days. If it's not too much trouble, I'd love to see the Rangers, Padres, and Mariners pennants you're thinking of.

Greg, I do have backstory on that picture. Actually, my buddy does. I'll get with him and get back to you.

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

Would it be safe to say that artwork on pennants pretty much disappeared in the mid-60s? By "artwork," I mean stadiums, players, etc. and not logos or stand alone helmets.

Here's an evolution of Giants pennants. !962 NL Champs with the cartoon font; 1960's pennant with same font, showing an un-enclosed Candlestick; early 70's pennant showing Candlestick enclosed; stiff, synthetic pennant with leftover graphics and, finally, a 1970's logo only pennant.

I really can't think of any Giants pennants past the mid-60's with any new graphics. They are all just logos and print. Is it the same with other teams?

Isn’t there a 1970s Giants with a barrel chested Giant standing in Candlestick?

[thetahat]

And to answer the question, it seemed to go out with the MLB trademarks. Although there are pennants which look like the 1969s but have no trademark, suggesting maybe 1966-68.

I still love the cloth ASCOs from 1969 but you all know that already ...

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by thetahat

Isn’t there a 1970s Giants with a barrel chested Giant standing in Candlestick?

This guy? Yeah, I guess you could consider this "artwork"....or not.

[Domer05]

The Dodgers offered up this stadium pennant, made by Trench, in the latter half of the 1960s; and it remained available for purchase through the team's souvenir catalogue into the early 1980s.

Although the coloring changed from four to two colors sometime in the 1970s, the design remain otherwise unchanged throughout its 15 year run. Surprisingly, it never featured an MLB mark like others by Trench or ASCO/WinCraft made during that era.