53 Bowman Color Condition Debate With a Friend

[bobsbbcards]

Ditto.

[hcv123]

Qualifier - what you are asking is super hard with scans and without the cards in hand. That said:

I would call the Houtteman and Jethroe Ex- and the only thing I can see indicating the "-" is the top right corner on the Jethroe and the bottom left corner on the Houtteman. The other 3 corners appear for sure nicer than the ones on the graded copy Bob posted.

Erskine - VG/EX
Shantz - EX

[Tere1071]

Originally Posted by hcv123

Qualifier - what you are asking is super hard with scans and without the cards in hand. That said:

I would call the Houtteman and Jethroe Ex- and the only thing I can see indicating the "-" is the top right corner on the Jethroe and the bottom left corner on the Houtteman. The other 3 corners appear for sure nicer than the ones on the graded copy Bob posted.

Erskine - VG/EX
Shantz - EX

Thank you, Howard. I know it is better to have the cards in plain sight but under the circumstances, this is the best I could muster. The reverse sides of the four cards are free of any wax, gum, or markings.

My friend is somewhat difficult to deal with, I would describe doing business with him as jousting. This is why I sought some third-party input.

[Gorditadogg]

I would also say the cards are EX except for Erskine. The PSA 4 card is of course over-graded. Probably trimmed too and maybe a reprint.

[Tere1071]

Thank you, Al, I appreciate the input. If I can come to an agreement with my friend I will have another 20 singles. The problem is that my friend separates business from friendship while he expects me to place a premium on friendship. He's a good person, but very hard to deal with when it comes to his cards.

[G1911]

I would call them VG-EX, the Erskine VG+.

[Gorditadogg]

Originally Posted by Tere1071

Thank you, Al, I appreciate the input. If I can come to an agreement with my friend I will have another 20 singles. The problem is that my friend separates business from friendship while he expects me to place a premium on friendship. He's a good person, but very hard to deal with when it comes to his cards.

Haha, tell him those cards are borderline EX at best.

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[Tere1071]

He acknowledged that the Erskine was weak. The other 3 cards he's convinced are in ex to ex+ condition. When I sell my upgrades I usually am able to recover my expenses or make a buck or two, remember I purchase almost all of my cards from eBay sellers. There is a lot of price competition for cards below excellent condition. I offered him $30 for the four cards, he turned me down flat.

[riggs336]

In 1977 they would all be NR MT. Today your assessment seems strict but accurate.