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01-02-2021, 08:39 AM
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All good points
and I believe I mentioned the orientation as well :-) SO MANY flags..........
Collateral damage - I believe we garnered 60+ watchers on the listing! 
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01-02-2021, 09:45 AM
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FWIW I don’t think this was intentionally done in a way to deceive buyers. As pointed out, that baseball image was likely placed on that cigar box a long time ago. Neither the box or the image are fake but when combined, it can become the frankenmonster that you reference. There are several scrapbook and folk art examples where people would cut out images and put it on different media. I have a collage with Baltimore players for example that were cut out from N173 cards...shame but a unique item. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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01-02-2021, 02:09 PM
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Harris & Son - Philadelphia printers
Ok may have solved the mystery or deepened it. The name Harris & Son appears bottom right of label though it is chopped so took a stab at Harris and...
The woodcut was definitely done by Harris & Son a Philadelphia printer who did trade cards, cans and cigar box labels, circulars, calendars etc.. during this time period. This link for more info on him: http://digital.librarycompany.org/is...%3A79266/print Then tracing the picture back through Getty Images (lots of cool baseball stuff there...) brought me to the "Innings" cigar brand, which brought me to this: https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...els-1910169352 Though not exactly the same box layout it is the same image and same trim work on the box which was branded "Shortstop" cigars. So not having a Worthpoint subscription could not tell what it sold for... Haven't been able to find out much about Shortstop brand however...
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01-04-2021, 12:02 PM
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well
From a listing I have running. Not base ball but what an early cigar box with labels looks like in terms of stamping - presentation - orientation. This is a busy one :-)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/193821448471
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