Let's see some postcards

[rickalaska]

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[RUKen]

Originally Posted by rickalaska

HUGH DUFFY (HOF) player/manager of the 1908 Providence Grays. HUGH DUFFY is of course the holder of the major league's highest single season batting average in history at .440 in 1894. He batted .333 for Providence in 1908. Standing behind him in the buttoned sweater is pitcher Sam Frock (24-14 record in 1908) who pitched for the Pittsburgh Pirates and Boston Doves.

That player does not look like Hugh Duffy.

[rickalaska]

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[RUKen]

Originally Posted by rickalaska

Hugh Duffy's ears are VERY DISTINCTIVE. Compare the photos

I don't find the eyes and eyebrows to be a match, and I think Duffy's left ear is more angular on its edge than the rounded ear of the man on your postcard.

[molenick]

Paid too much for this postcard many years ago because I and the seller were convinced Ty Cobb was the fifth person from the left. I was later told by a Cobb expert that it was not him, but I still held out hope. That is, until today when I did some research and found a clipping of this photo in the Detroit Free Press from May 8, 1910 https://www.newspapers.com/clip/4581...it-free-press/. The McGraw Tigers were a local independent team but "Cobb" is actually "Anderson, catcher". It must have been interesting living in Detroit in 1910 and "kind of" looking like Cobb. But I probably should have used my money on something else 30 years ago (or whenever it was that I bought this).

[rickalaska]

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[rickalaska]

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[vintagebaseballcardguy]

Amazing thread, guys! This is the kind of thread that gives a baseball card collector thoughts of crossing over....

[RUKen]

Originally Posted by rickalaska

The RPPC is of the 1908 Providence Grays - many of the players can easily be identified. The most important - Sam Frock (pictured in my first posting) ONLY played for Providence in 1908 and is clearly in the photo (his ears are just as distinctive as Duffy's). Duffy was the player/manager of that team - doesn't make sense he would not be in the team photo.

Now compare your photos to the 1906 Fan Craze photo of Duffy and tell me they look exactly the same - they don't. People gain and loose weight - even his hair style is different in every photo. I believe your first photo is from 1894

The photo in my first post is from 1901, from the Chicago Daily News collection. I had not compared the hair, or the weight--I wrote that the eyes, eyebrows, and ears (at least the left ear) did not match. Sometimes people miss team photos. If you have IDs for other players, that would be helpful to confirm the 1908 date. In my opinion, the player in the middle is not a match for Hugh Duffy, whose face is quite distinctive.

[rickalaska]

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[Bicem]

Originally Posted by rickalaska

The RPPC is of the 1908 Providence Grays - many of the players can easily be identified. The most important - Sam Frock (pictured in my first posting) ONLY played for Providence in 1908 and is clearly in the photo (his ears are just as distinctive as Duffy's). Duffy was the player/manager of that team - doesn't make sense he would not be in the team photo.

Now compare your photos to the 1906 Fan Craze photo of Duffy and tell me they look exactly the same - they don't. People gain and loose weight - even his hair style is different in every photo. I believe your first photo is from 1894

Doesn't look like Duffy or Frock to me.

Duffy photo used for his 1908 (and '07, '09) Providence composite postcard.



Frock photo also used for his 1908 Providence postcard (and later used for his 1912 c46 card)