SGC and greed

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

agreed...all TPGing is a crock...imho!

I have hope for computer grading. It will take the favoritism and complete incompetence out of the process.

[kevinlenane]

Genamint is coming soon - here is surface grading showing the subgrade and the weighted defects that contributed to that grade in a heat map

[tiger8mush]

Originally Posted by kevinlenane

Genamint is coming soon - here is surface grading showing the subgrade and the weighted defects that contributed to that grade in a heat map

Can Genamint tell the difference between a 1970s Cracker Jack reprint and a genuine 1914?

(sorry, not trying to derail Ken's thread)

[kevinlenane]

Yep - that surface heatmap is getting super granular in terms of what it sees as defects/anomalies from the perfect version of the card down to individual pixels. So as long as the image is taken on something equivalent to a iPhone 10 that is more than enough scope to detect print marks and other print and format differences that are indicators of a fugazi.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by kevinlenane

Genamint is coming soon - here is surface grading showing the subgrade and the weighted defects that contributed to that grade in a heat map

will genamint measure cards as well? Because there are issues with quite a large discrepancy in real factory cut sizes...see my e93/e95 thread. How ill this be done so as to differentiate trims vs actual factory cuts?

[kevinlenane]

The size issue is dealt with via a measured range and also via fingerprinting - once we ID a card, if it appears again and there is any pixel count different in size then it will come up as trimmed or altered. There will also be cases where the condition changes but that will look different to the machine...

[kevinlenane]

Even if something gets pressed and trimmed the actual sizes and measurements from edges and borders wont be the same - to a machine it is readily identifiable.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by kevinlenane

Even if something gets pressed and trimmed the actual sizes and measurements from edges and borders wont be the same - to a machine it is readily identifiable.

So for example...take one of the E93's from original collection I have...trim it up to sharpen corners so that it's size is comparable to other e93's originally cut a little smaller...the machine will not know this?

[kmac32]

Just looked through my S74 silks and 2 were encapsulated without the plastic sleeve the SGC person was talking about. In my opinion, these 2 cards look fine and maybe even better than the others. Unless they can prove to me that this helps preserve the card better, there is absolutely no need to do this other than to take money from my bank account. Have emailed them about encapsulating without the additional plastic and reversing the charges. Give the customer appropriate options other than my way or the highway is my opinion. My opinion is that this is being totally bungled by SGC and this will be the last they see of my money.

[steve B]

Tying stuff to the Iphone is a deal breaker for me.