PSA SMR question

[trambo]

I'd echo the VCP sentiments. While no method is perfect, there's enough data to get a ballpark price on cards which may not have any sales for a long time. I'm on their site several times a day doing research. Some people don't like to pay the $17.99/month but if you're buying or selling a bunch of cards or even fewer higher valued ones, it's completely worth it.

Good luck!

[pokerplyr80]

I pay for a VCP subscription. As others have mentioned it's well worth the price. When I first got back into the hobby I remembered those Beckett price guides, and figured SMR was the modern equivalent. But the data there is completely unreliable. I haven't looked a card up there in years.

[JollyElm]

Here's a question, if anyone has some insight...

How truly accurate are any of these sites, including SMR? Over the past year or so, quite a few cards I bought have curiously never appeared in the PSA 'Auction Prices Realized' site (the only one I consult aside from the sold results on ebay). These buys were either when I negotiated a price with a seller and he sent me an official offer (so nothing nefarious was involved), including a 1964 'Koufax Strikes Out 15' card, and a few others where the title of the auction had the wrong year listed. For instance, I recently bought a 1962 card in an ebay auction that was listed as a 1959, and a 1972 Wilt Chamberlain that was listed as a 1974. These cards are nowhere to be found in either the right or wrong years on the PSA site, so my assumption is they just receive the official data from ebay and if the year/player/card number doesn't correspond to reality, they are just excluded (garbage in, garbage out). Is that most likely the case? Do any of these sites do deeper dives into the data to make it more accurate overall?

[swarmee]

Auction Prices Realized records are all based on what the computer system thinks the Cert # is. So if they mistype the cert number, or read it wrong using OCR of either the number or the bar code, it gets entered under the wrong card information.
It's possible since I reported so many issues with BIN/BO or seller offers that they're hidden in the system so an not to skew the pricing data. I know some 1990 Topps partial blackless were in the APR system as having sold for $4700 each, when they were actually sold by BO for between $600-800. None of those partial blackless have any APR sales currently.

[VintageBen]

www.sortsof.com

for most items you can see what they actually sold for

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by VintageBen

www.sortsof.com

for most items you can see what they actually sold for

For items still in ebay sold listings, you can also open up the page in your browser by selecting View Source, and then Ctrl-F search for the "taxexclusiveprice".

[Stampsfan]

Thought this was interesting, as the auction prices realized on the PSA site seems to update quickly. My recent REA win was reflected on the PSA site within a few days. REA has not even gotten my check yet (sending from Canada), yet the final price (including BP) is on the PSA site.

This can be both good and bad. Good in that the prices are reflected quickly, but the bad is obviously, deadbeat bidders are still reflected.