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Old 12-08-2020, 12:09 PM
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Old 12-08-2020, 12:31 PM
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Interesting, his lifetime adjusted OPS+ of 156 is 19th All-Time. Tied with Willie Mays and the newer Frank Thomas.

If he wasn't such a defensive liability, had a couple more injury free years, or was slightly more likable.........he might already be in.

He was one of those guys, whose baseball card I was fascinated with as a kid, because his stats on the back were so gaudy..........yet none of my friends knew who the hell he was.
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He's one of those guys who looks great if you look at certain stats and not so great if you look at others. I think you could justify it either way. When is he next up for consideration?
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. . . was the title of his autobio in '89. It's a great read which you can likely run down on Amazon. It gives light to all the awful racist s**t he had to deal with from troglodyte team mates and fans, starting when he was the only black player on the Arkansas Travelers in '63 and continuing when he went up to Philly. Instead of letting it define him, he overcame it and became a helluva player. If not for one misguided idiot voter, would now be at Cooperstown. Sadly, like Santo, it will come, but now, only after he's 6' down.
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Old 12-08-2020, 01:34 PM
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His first ML homer... one of three hit in the 5th inning by the Phillies. Pitcher Art Mahaffey had hit the last HR of his career 3 batters earlier.
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He's one of those guys who looks great if you look at certain stats and not so great if you look at others. I think you could justify it either way. When is he next up for consideration?
Early next year.
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Old 12-09-2020, 01:19 AM
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It sounds as if many believe that Dick Allen was worthy of admittance to the Hall of Fame, and should already have been so honored. If you’d like to read the opposing view, I recommend chapter 26 in Bill James’s book “Whatever Happened to the Hall of Fame?””
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This sucks. I think he is right on the cusp of getting into the HOF via the senior vote, and now he won't be around to enjoy it. This seems to happen way to often. RIP.
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One of the best SI covers ever.
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