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Old 10-27-2020, 08:00 AM
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Looks like the OPC and Topps 1979 Gretzky PSA 10's will be coming up in the Heritage auction starting in mid November. Any guesses at the final prices.

The OPC last sold in 2016 for $465K. The Topps last sold a few months later in 2016 for $201K. Both are pop 2 in PSA 10 grade. Think about how much the card market has grown since then. I think the OPC sells for $1-2M minimum. It could go for $2M plus with buyer premium. I think the Topps goes for 40-50% of the cost of the OPC card. In 2016 the Topps sold for 43% of the OPC. I am looking to acquire an OPC in a PSA 9 grade as there are 89 of them and I think they will jump after the PSA 10 sale because they are the highest grade that are somewhat attainable.
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Old 10-27-2020, 08:09 AM
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The OPC 10 was on eBay for months and months at 1 Mil and no sale.

It will be interesting to see if the different venue brings out bigger money.

Looking forward to following these two.
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The OPC 10 was on eBay for months and months at 1 Mil and no sale.

It will be interesting to see if the different venue brings out bigger money.

Looking forward to following these two.
I can't imagine that it won't bring out the big bucks. Would imagine that those with the means are much more likely to hand Heritage 2 mill than any ebay seller, even probstein or pwcc.

Agree with EJKaufman, maybe around 2 million for the OPC and somewhere in the 750 k to 1 million range for the Topps
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Old 10-27-2020, 02:28 PM
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https://youtu.be/66yNvHeePq4

This is the guy who had them listed and who must have consigned them.
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https://youtu.be/66yNvHeePq4

This is the guy who had them listed and who must have consigned them.
I have seen this video before, but I totally forgot about his Gretzky! Well done, Peck!

I don't agree with this guy. He stated that the GOAT in football can always be debated. For example, some say it's Brady, others say it is Barry Sanders, others say Elway, etc. But in hockey, according to him, there is no debate. Now first of all, how can anyone compare a QB to a WR or a RB? It just wouldn't make sense to say that Jim Brown will always be better than Tom Brady. I think the same thing can be said about hockey. Yes, Gretzky is the greatest forward of all-time. However, the greatest d-man will always be Bobby Orr. And the greatest goalie? Now that would make an interesting debate!
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I have seen this video before, but I totally forgot about his Gretzky! Well done, Peck!

I don't agree with this guy. He stated that the GOAT in football can always be debated. For example, some say it's Brady, others say it is Barry Sanders, others say Elway, etc. But in hockey, according to him, there is no debate. Now first of all, how can anyone compare a QB to a WR or a RB? It just wouldn't make sense to say that Jim Brown will always be better than Tom Brady. I think the same thing can be said about hockey. Yes, Gretzky is the greatest forward of all-time. However, the greatest d-man will always be Bobby Orr. And the greatest goalie? Now that would make an interesting debate!
Look at it this way in terms of GOAT in Hockey. Gretzky played on the most stacked team ever and scored and passed all day winning scoring titles but was non existent on defense. Orr was defenseman of the year 8 straight years AND won scoring titles AND MVP's as the best scorer of his era. He was defenseman of the year and was at the top of the scoring leaders every year also. The first 100 assist season was accomplished by Orr, a defenseman. Orr is the ONLY player in the sports history to do this. Not even an argument for me as who is the GOAT. He is undoubtedly the #1 5 tool player the sport has ever seen.
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Here's one list anyhow. I am guessing Hasek tops more lists than anyone else.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...es-of-all-time
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Look at it this way in terms of GOAT in Hockey. Gretzky played on the most stacked team ever and scored and passed all day winning scoring titles but was non existent on defense. Orr was defenseman of the year 8 straight years AND won scoring titles AND MVP's as the best scorer of his era. He was defenseman of the year and was at the top of the scoring leaders every year also. The first 100 assist season was accomplished by Orr, a defenseman. Orr is the ONLY player in the sports history to do this. Not even an argument for me as who is the GOAT. He is undoubtedly the #1 5 tool player the sport has ever seen.
This is essentially the argument you will get from most Bostonians. I'm not sure that many people anywhere else buy it though.
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Look at it this way in terms of GOAT in Hockey. Gretzky played on the most stacked team ever and scored and passed all day winning scoring titles but was non existent on defense. Orr was defenseman of the year 8 straight years AND won scoring titles AND MVP's as the best scorer of his era. He was defenseman of the year and was at the top of the scoring leaders every year also. The first 100 assist season was accomplished by Orr, a defenseman. Orr is the ONLY player in the sports history to do this. Not even an argument for me as who is the GOAT. He is undoubtedly the #1 5 tool player the sport has ever seen.
I agree, and considering how short Orr's career was due to injuries from not being protected like Gretzky was, one can only imagine the feats he would have accomplished if he was.
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