Hey, pennant guys

[UKCardGuy]

Thanks guys. That's really helpful.

[thetahat]

Okay this won’t interest anyone else but I am really jazzed about these ... three different purchases last week, three mint ASCO cloth pennants. The Royals is hard to find without fading and the Pirates is hard to find in general (in cloth). Tigers must be from 1967 or 68 since it is clearly same company but no MLB. (The Tigers ‘69 ASCO is orange and not too uncommon.) ... I have still yet to see a cloth Giants ‘69 pennant in this series.

[thetahat]

Finished decorating the new wall, decided to put all of my stadium pennants on it. Generally not the most valuable but they display the best IMO. 45 more pennants brings the total to 205 full-size pennants on the walls in one room. Here are some observations about these Trench stadium pennants, in addition to KB’s great insight on his blog:

1. It seems that with one exception, there are at most three or four variations for each team in terms of the ballpark graphic and the logo used. This doesn’t include color variations. ... The Tigers have by my count 11 different versions, including the 1969 Tiger with crown. I have nine of them.

2. The Reds might have the only one on white. It’s probably my favorite.

3. No stadium pennant for Phillies, Senators I or II, Twins, Colt 45s. Every other team has one.

4. I think these started in 1956-57, with the earliest having the TMC trademark.

5. The Mets and the SF Giants have them but they are notably ... different (in a good way). The artwork just doesn’t look the same even though they look great. I don’t have any SFG ballpark pennants but I’ve seen Marc and Rob’s. I’m including a pic of two Mets pennants, top is Trench and bottom is ASCO ... yet the ballpark graphic looks identical.

6. The green paint is almost always faded to yellow ... or were they made that way on most pennants? The White Sox strangely have the most vivid colors.

7. Trench did these for Buffalo and Indianapolis in the IL and AA. They are on my wall. Would love to know if any other teams exist (Toronto? Rochester?)

Oh well thanks for reading. It’s gonna be a looong winter.

[perezfan]

Looks amazing Greg!

I love your yellow KC Athletics. So rare to find the yellow version, and it's very attractive in that color. And the other KC Athletics (with the Dumbo-like Elephant) is probably my favorite of all... tied with Mr. Red riding on his Bat above Crosley Field.

Also.... Does this one count as yet another Stadium Pennant for the Tigers? Seems like it straddles a fine line....

[ooo-ribay]

I love it, Greg!

How do you affix them to the wall? I’m assuming those are all in rigid holders?

[bocca001]

Looks great, Greg. The early SF Giants pennants (early for SF) with the batter in the stadium are very, very hard to find (thanks again, Mark, for mine). Are other teams as rare?

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by bocca001

Looks great, Greg. The early SF Giants pennants (early for SF) with the batter in the stadium are very, very hard to find (thanks again, Mark, for mine). Are other teams as rare?

That is a stunning pennant. I guess it is Trench, with lefty hitter guy ... but it looks a little different and it seems as if the spine is also cloth? Really cool and rare. Aside from my two minor league pennants (Indianapolis and Buffalo) I think the hardest to find might be the Polo Grounds Giants. Also I think the Orioles pennant with the large stadium is tough ... I’d like to get this in orange.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by bocca001

Looks great, Greg. The early SF Giants pennants (early for SF) with the batter in the stadium are very, very hard to find (thanks again, Mark, for mine). Are other teams as rare?

Slightly different. There are a few variations.

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

I love it, Greg!

How do you affix them to the wall? I’m assuming those are all in rigid holders?

Thanks Rob! Rigid holders thumbtacked to the wall. Nothing else will hold.

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Looks amazing Greg!

I love your yellow KC Athletics. So rare to find the yellow version, and it's very attractive in that color. And the other KC Athletics (with the Dumbo-like Elephant) is probably my favorite of all... tied with Mr. Red riding on his Bat above Crosley Field.

Also.... Does this one count as yet another Stadium Pennant for the Tigers? Seems like it straddles a fine line....

After much deliberation by the Committee of Basement Wall Decoration it was decided that Tigers pennant does not qualify as a stadium pennant although a resolution was passed establishing it as one of the best ever Tigers pennants. I have this in multi color and in all-orange print. Same decision on the Fenway Park Red Sox pennant that use the ballpark as a stand-alone logo.

Speaking of the KCA pennant, to my knowledge, it is the only yellow/gold Trench pennant?

[Domer05]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Looks amazing Greg!


Also.... Does this one count as yet another Stadium Pennant for the Tigers? Seems like it straddles a fine line....

I completely agree: that Tigers pennant is awesome. Interesting thing about it: I do believe that version was by Trench...

...but beware: WGN liked the design so much they made a copy of it featuring the same stadium façade artwork; albeit, much smaller; and using Day Glo colors; and featuring the ballpark's more contemporary name/signage, "TIGER STADIUM."

WGN's was made in '68 to commemorate the "Sock it to'em" Tigers, so the Trench version likely came out much earlier.

They even ripped-off Trench's signature letter font!

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by Domer05

I completely agree: that Tigers pennant is awesome. Interesting thing about it: I do believe that version was by Trench...

...but beware: WGN liked the design so much they made a copy of it featuring the same stadium façade artwork; albeit, much smaller; and using Day Glo colors; and featuring the ballpark's more contemporary name/signage, "TIGER STADIUM."

WGN's was made in '68 to commemorate the "Sock it to'em" Tigers, so the Trench version likely came out much earlier.

They even ripped-off Trench's signature letter font!

Oh I have no doubt that it’s a Trench. Only that it doesn’t quite fit the mold of their other stadium pennants (graphic of inside stadium with smaller logo floating above). Whatever the case, the Trench artist should have been honored at the annual pennant awards ceremony for that design. IMO the best looking team pennant from the 1950s along with the Yankees with large batter in front of large Uncle Sam hat.