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Old 11-25-2020, 03:26 PM
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I would take the 5 as well. Believe it or not, the centering isn't the deciding factor as the top to bottom doesn't bother me nearly as much. But overall color and the print dot are more troubling on the 8(OC)
What troubles me even more than the color/print dot (for an 8 OC) is the bottom right corner.

Centering aside, you regularly see sharper-looking cards than this get a PSA 6. It makes it very difficult to "grade" your own cards accurately
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Old 11-25-2020, 04:06 PM
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I believe that corner has a "ding", but is still consistent for an 8. The 5 shows more actual corner wear as opposed to being dinged. Its all up to the individual for sure.
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Old 11-25-2020, 04:23 PM
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I really like your 5 on that Brock...it looks much better than the 8 (oc). My mind is made up in my situation it is similar to this 63 Brock...I am buying the 5
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Old 11-25-2020, 04:23 PM
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I believe that corner has a "ding", but is still consistent for an 8. The 5 shows more actual corner wear as opposed to being dinged. Its all up to the individual for sure.
You're right. That's far from the only '63 8 OCs that has a corner just as bad (and no better color).

I may be undergrading some of my stuff. If something had a corner ding that noticeable, the color and everything else would have to be almost perfect for me to consider a possible 8
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Old 11-25-2020, 04:29 PM
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The Brock example is probably a bit misleading since it's a beautiful 5 and an atrocious 8OC.

8OCs can look nice:

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Old 11-25-2020, 05:10 PM
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You're right. That's far from the only '63 8 OCs that has a corner just as bad (and no better color).

I may be undergrading some of my stuff. If something had a corner ding that noticeable, the color and everything else would have to be almost perfect for me to consider a possible 8
You would be surprised to see some of the 8's I have. It takes 30x magnification to see the imperfections on the corners. But let's face it, it's PSA. That 8(OC) could easily be a 7 on any given day.
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To be clear, the 1963 Lou Brock is NOT the card you're considering, right? Can you post pics of the ones you're interested in, or do you not want to disclose it in case it makes someone else grab it right out from under you?

Being much more of a corners guy, if the OC isn't too bad or distracting, I'd generally jump on that one. If the centering is atrocious, that's a whole different story. We'd all have much more insightful opinions if we could see the two choices.
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It would depend on the age of the card, and how common it is to be found in a higher grade. Without seeing the cards or knowing any other details, I would say I would be more likely to lean towards the 8OC the older the card is, since an 8 might be really hard to find on a pre-war card.

On a card from the 1950s-60s, I could be more likely to go with the 5, since an 8 is easier to find, and maybe the 5 could look gorgeous but just have a very small wrinkle.

So, it all depends on the specific card at hand.

Remember, the market generally dings an OC by two grades in pricing, so an 8 OC would typically sell for around 6 prices. But again, that's all subject to change, based on the specific card we're talking about here....

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To be clear, the 1963 Lou Brock is NOT the card you're considering, right? Can you post pics of the ones you're interested in, or do you not want to disclose it in case it makes someone else grab it right out from under you?

Being much more of a corners guy, if the OC isn't too bad or distracting, I'd generally jump on that one. If the centering is atrocious, that's a whole different story. We'd all have much more insightful opinions if we could see the two choices.
The 5 Brock is mine, I pulled the 8oc listing off of eBay for comparison to make a point for OP.

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Old 11-26-2020, 06:48 AM
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I chose to buy this Orr rookie in 8(OC). To me the centering is hard to read on this card and in my judgment it doesn’t put my eye off when I look at it. Not even sure why the designation. It also seems arbitrary to me when a card is downgraded on centering versus labeled OC. I don’t get it.so I would make the decision on your own eye appeal.
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What troubles me even more than the color/print dot (for an 8 OC) is the bottom right corner.

Centering aside, you regularly see sharper-looking cards than this get a PSA 6. It makes it very difficult to "grade" your own cards accurately
Yes the bottom right corner for me too
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