Mind. Blown.

JollyElm · #1 11-19-2020, 04:21 PM

If it is not a blatant, egregious error/mislabeling on PSA's part, then there must be some creases or such present somewhere (at a minimum). Can you tilt it in the light from every angle and take pics to see if anything becomes apparent?? If there's nothing there, then YOWZA!!!

ASF123 · #2 11-19-2020, 04:47 PM

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If it is not a blatant, egregious error/mislabeling on PSA's part

It has to be - I mean, Milton Bradley wasn't even born in 1968.

rsdill2 · #3 11-20-2020, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by JollyElm

If it is not a blatant, egregious error/mislabeling on PSA's part, then there must be some creases or such present somewhere (at a minimum). Can you tilt it in the light from every angle and take pics to see if anything becomes apparent?? If there's nothing there, then YOWZA!!!

Hard to tell because it's entombed. But maybe it has a wave in it. Which is very interesting because it definitely did not have a wave on it when I subbed it. See pics, maybe a bend in the middle and another one at the end. Very interesting. Definitely no creases or wrinkles that I can find.

NiceDocter · #4 11-20-2020, 08:06 AM

Maybe they considered it off center because of the white showing on the edge beside Koosman?? Although 2 of my 3 I pulled from packs back in 1968 have the same issue.... they are ungraded. Mine are not the Milton Bradley cards but the regular Topps issue.

hcv123 · #5 11-20-2020, 08:09 AM

PSA giveth and PSA taketh away and many run like sheep (myself sadly included) to have them do it again because as incompetent and inconsistent as they are - they are a business reality!

I would agree for a card like that to get a 1.5 there would/should have to be a crease there - I would argue that even with a hard to see crease a 1.5 is harsh.

Do an interesting experiment - bust the card out - reinspect - take great pre resubmission scans and resubmit - then report back here. Be curious to see how different it comes back.

jchcollins · #6 11-20-2020, 08:56 AM

I'd totally pop that and send it to SGC. Even if it has a wrinkle you missed, that's one hell of a harsh grade. Looks like a 6 to me.

Bigdaddy · #7 11-20-2020, 08:58 AM

Very nice card, despite PSA's harsh judgement.

ASF123 · #8 11-20-2020, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by hcv123

PSA giveth and PSA taketh away and many run like sheep (myself sadly included) to have them do it again because as incompetent and inconsistent as they are - they are a business reality!

That's what baffles me as someone just coming back into the market. Why are people still playing along with PSA's game? It seems to be just a feedback loop where people go along with PSA because it's a business reality, and it's a business reality because people go along with PSA. How long can that be sustainable?

jchcollins · #9 11-20-2020, 10:45 AM

There will be people who disagree with this, but on big name / marquee cards, I think they deliberately sometimes give them ridiculous grades knowing that more likely than not, the card will get resubbed. This definitely happens with Mantle cards. Send it in, in that holder for a review - and I would not be surprised if it comes back like a 4.

jayshum · #10 11-20-2020, 01:47 PM

I'm not familiar with the Milton Bradley designation for 1968 Topps cards. Can someone explain what that is and how you can tell the difference from regular 1968 Topps cards?

jchcollins · #11 11-20-2020, 01:55 PM

The Milton Bradley cards were parallels of certain 1st and 2nd Series '68 Topps cards that were be made to be included with this game. Depending on what you read, some sources say they were actually manufactured in 1969, not '68. The main differences are the backs are yellow instead of darker / more orange like regular '68 cards. And because of the printing layout - usually on the short side of the card - sometimes there is a solid white streak / line on the end of the border - as can be seen in the OP's scan on the card that received the unfair grade.

Gorditadogg · #12 11-21-2020, 08:27 AM

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Hard to tell because it's entombed. But maybe it has a wave in it. Which is very interesting because it definitely did not have a wave on it when I subbed it. See pics, maybe a bend in the middle and another one at the end. Very interesting. Definitely no creases or wrinkles that I can find.

Yes, by looking at the back I can see what may be a wave across the middle of the card.

Maybe it got damp in transit?

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ALBB · #13 11-21-2020, 10:59 AM

Like that 70s song..." didn't I blown your mind this time"....

dont recall who sang that one ??

Rich Klein · #14 11-21-2020, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ALBB

Like that 70s song..." didn't I blown your mind this time"....

dont recall who sang that one ??

Delfonics 1970:

Note: This Soul Train appearance was a few years after the song was released:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYNjpZ3NAGE

Rich

ALBB · #15 11-21-2020, 02:16 PM

far out Rich !

Rich Klein · #16 11-21-2020, 07:05 PM

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far out Rich !

Even more far out, and I heard this while listening to a 1989 Countdown tonight on Sirius/XM there was the very faithful remake. If you like boy bands, you'll love this version. (In reality, they were fairly decent when they did remakes)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUv4BFpLU_4

Regards
Rich