1966 Topps High's - Any uncut sheets or partial sheets known?

[Kevvyg1026]

Thank you for updating. This layout is the first 8 rows of one half-slit. Here is a summary of things for this series.

As can be seen, the pattern observed is A, B, C, D, E, A, F, G where A is the row headed by Northrup, B is headed by Perranowski, C is headed by Cards Rookies, D by Taylor, E by Salmon, F by Mantilla, & G by the Jackson/Shirley.

The complete pattern is A, B, C, D, E, A, F, G, B, C, D, E for this half-slit. The other half-slit looks like: D, E, A, F, G, B, C, D, E, A, F, G.

So the SP rows are B, C, F, G. Counts of eBay sales over a lengthy period for cards from this series support this conclusion.

There are still 11 cards to be placed in this array, but we know that they are all from SP rows. These cards are 517, 528, 532, 538, 541, 552, 556, 566, 570, 576, & 590.

We know that 517 (Checklist) is in C11 and that it is adjacent to a card with lots of blue sky. However, we don't know whether it is in row B, C, or G.

I have seen a MC of 541 (Oliver) that indicates it is not in column 11 but there wasn't enough info to tell what the adjacent card was. Same goes for Skowron (590).

There is a MC of 556 (Queen) that shows it is above a regular player card, which means that it is unlikely to be in C11, but that can't be completely ruled out.

Nicholson (576) is above either a RC or a Mgr card. This means that 576 is above 552 or 549. If 576 is above 549, then 576 is at the end of the Hoerner row. If 576 is above 552, then it could be in several places, including possibilities in each of the three rows.

Cards 532 & 552 are adjacent to each other but this isn't enough to determine their placement.

Finally, severe diamond-shaped MCs have been observed for 556, 566, 586, & 590 but I do not know if that means they were all in the same row. Another post suggested that 566/590 were adjacent to each other but I have not seen MCs to support that yet.

[BillP]

I think the 566/590 miscuts were in the same wax pack or box from a miscut sheet. Don't have enough to go on to move opinion to where they might be together.
I'm still looking around. Mainly at the checklist,

[BillP]

Originally Posted by Kevvyg1026

Thank you for updating. This layout is the first 8 rows of one half-slit. Here is a summary of things for this series.

As can be seen, the pattern observed is A, B, C, D, E, A, F, G where A is the row headed by Northrup, B is headed by Perranowski, C is headed by Cards Rookies, D by Taylor, E by Salmon, F by Mantilla, & G by the Jackson/Shirley.

The complete pattern is A, B, C, D, E, A, F, G, B, C, D, E for this half-slit. The other half-slit looks like: D, E, A, F, G, B, C, D, E, A, F, G.

So the SP rows are B, C, F, G. Counts of eBay sales over a lengthy period for cards from this series support this conclusion.

There are still 11 cards to be placed in this array, but we know that they are all from SP rows. These cards are 517, 528, 532, 538, 541, 552, 556, 566, 570, 576, & 590.

We know that 517 (Checklist) is in C11 and that it is adjacent to a card with lots of blue sky. However, we don't know whether it is in row B, C, or G.

I have seen a MC of 541 (Oliver) that indicates it is not in column 11 but there wasn't enough info to tell what the adjacent card was. Same goes for Skowron (590).

There is a MC of 556 (Queen) that shows it is above a regular player card, which means that it is unlikely to be in C11, but that can't be completely ruled out.

Nicholson (576) is above either a RC or a Mgr card. This means that 576 is above 552 or 549. If 576 is above 549, then 576 is at the end of the Hoerner row. If 576 is above 552, then it could be in several places, including possibilities in each of the three rows.

Cards 532 & 552 are adjacent to each other but this isn't enough to determine their placement.

Finally, severe diamond-shaped MCs have been observed for 556, 566, 586, & 590 but I do not know if that means they were all in the same row. Another post suggested that 566/590 were adjacent to each other but I have not seen MCs to support that yet.

A 576 nicholson that has a partial left border on ebay now. Diamond cut. The bottom has a border of a regular card and the bottom looks like the bar of a dark colored team banner. The team banner is smaller than the regular border so I'm going to look at that prospect for placement clues.

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by BillP

A 576 nicholson that has a partial left border on ebay now. Diamond cut. The bottom has a border of a regular card and the bottom looks like the bar of a dark colored team banner. The team banner is smaller than the regular border so I'm going to look at that prospect for placement clues.

It looks to me like the pea green that the Orioles and Astros have. Someone here needs to win it to show a higher quality scan.

[BillP]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

It looks to me like the pea green that the Orioles and Astros have. Someone here needs to win it to show a higher quality scan.

I'm looking to bid. Thx for the detail scan. Astros or Orioles. Of the unknowns, what is left? Also, stated earlier, 576 is above a mgr or rookie card I believe.

[Kevvyg1026]

Spots available are to the right of 561, 586, 569, 543 plus the cards whose positions we don't know are 517, 541, 590, 566, 532, 552, 570, 528, 556, and 538.

If that color is Orioles green, then Nicholson would be next to 566 (Cuellar). I don't believe there are any other possibilities. So, if that color is Orioles green, that would force 576 to be in the row headed by Perranowski and then the 532/552 combo in the row headed by Cardinals RC.

It could not be 586 Raymond, because the card under 576 has to be either a manager or rookie card based on another miscut of 576, and if 576 was next to 586, the card under 576 would be 569.

[Kevvyg1026]

It might also be possible for Nicholson to be next to 566 (Cuellar) and both cards could be in the Shirley/Jackson row (Columns 10/11). Then the 532/552 combo would be in the Perranowski row.

[Kevvyg1026]

Can someone explain the cutting process used by Topps for 1966? Were the sheets cut into horizontal or vertical strips first or were both cuts done simultaneously?

Trying to determine if it's possible to piece together cards that are severely diamond cut.

[Kevvyg1026]

Did you win the nicholson bid?

[BillP]

Originally Posted by Kevvyg1026

Did you win the nicholson bid?

yes. will have it in about a week or so.

[Kevvyg1026]

Can't wait to find out what you see. My guess is that it will be cuellar next to him

[BillP]

Originally Posted by BillP

I'm looking to bid. Thx for the detail scan. Astros or Orioles. Of the unknowns, what is left? Also, stated earlier, 576 is above a mgr or rookie card I believe.

I won this card, just received it. The card to the left of Nicholson #576 has a YELLOW bar. no question about it.

[BillP]

and now looking at post #356, which shows a MC back of #576, my belief is that #576 is above #549 and #570 is above Rodgers. I compared the black shape outline of the MC back to #552 and #549 and my thought is that is similar to #549's outline. Opinions welcome on that one. Comparing the back of #549 to post #356.

[Kevvyg1026]

The only 7th series cards that I do not know their positions are: 517, 528, 532, 538, 541, 552, 556, 566, 570, 576, and 590. So, that would suggest that 570 (or 590) is left of 576. This may mean that 570 is in Column 9 and 576 in Column 10

[BillP]

It's clearly yellow as opposed to white sox tan on the left border. So I think 570 is a strong candidate.