Do you find this concerning?

[ullmandds]

I've been dabbling a little lately in modern. I got caught in the randy arozarena frenzy and picked up a few...one of which has doubled in "Value" last 2 weeks! I find this type of production/collecting but really investing gimmicky. It's like gambling on the hottest stock of the moment. I also picked up a tatis jr or 2.

I don't care about these cards...I treat them like stocks! I will sell when it suits me likely to buy vintage...which to me is not THAT intertwined to modern. only in that modern is a gateway for the real blue chips...cobb/ruth!!! I LOVE my vintage...and it's value is much more stable in my opine.

[thatkidfromjerrymaguire]

Well, while the OP states that he is "very, very, concerned" about the modern card market, but I can't say that I share that concern.

I do find modern cards to be a bit overwhelming, overdone, unnecessarily confusing, etc....but I'm not concerned by it. I just choose not to collect it.

I think the card companies are doing a good job of creating products that the modern market wants to buy. Right now, parallels, chrome, numbered cards, and variations are hot and selling....so the card companies are rightfully churning that stuff out as fast as possible. And currently, stores can't keep that stuff in stock...so it's being received well.

The only way that would make me concerned is if I was heavily INVESTED in modern cards...because I do think the prices of modern cards aren't sustainable.

I think COLLECTORS of modern cards will be fine...if someone enjoys putting together a cool looking run of Mookie Betts chrome refractor numbered prizm cards, then they will be able to enjoy that pursuit the same way I like to chase down bubble gum cards from the 1950s. There's no guarantee that Mookie Betts collection will be as worth as much as he paid for it ten years from now, but if he enjoys the pursuit, then it's worth it. The same could be said with my vintage cards.

It's the guys who are stockpiling modern cards already at high prices in the hopes their "investment" will pay off in the long term who should be concerned about the state and trajectory of the modern market.

Also, I know that many of you like to take shots and make fun of all the modern shiny, numbered, chrome, "crap". So you're going to love making fun of the most recent gimmick: Topps RIP. It's a new product which sells for $100 per box and contains four cards....and INSIDE each of those cards is another mini-card....but in order to get the mini-card, you have to rip open (ruin) the big card. Not my thing, but if there are collectors that enjoy it, then I have no problem with Topps making it. Love it or hate it, it's creative.

[rdwyer]

If they had made t206 Ty Cobb cards with red, green, blue, pink, or purple shoes would you collect all those? NOT ME.

[skelly423]

Originally Posted by rdwyer

If they had made t206 Ty Cobb cards with red, green, blue, pink, or purple shoes would you collect all those? NOT ME.

Or different back varieties... 😀

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by skelly423

Or different back varieties... 😀

Ooof, that's a smack right in the Broad Leaf...

[Tabe]

Originally Posted by rdwyer

If they had made t206 Ty Cobb cards with red, green, blue, pink, or purple shoes would you collect all those? NOT ME.

And yet there are people who collect all four of the Babe Ruth cards in 1933 Goudey.

Or, to use your example, all four of the Ty Cobb front variations from T206, not to mention all the back variations.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by rdwyer

If they had made t206 Ty Cobb cards with red, green, blue, pink, or purple shoes would you collect all those? NOT ME.

that would be exactly what i'd collect!!

[oldeboo]

Originally Posted by thatkidfromjerrymaguire

Also, I know that many of you like to take shots and make fun of all the modern shiny, numbered, chrome, "crap". So you're going to love making fun of the most recent gimmick: Topps RIP. It's a new product which sells for $100 per box and contains four cards....and INSIDE each of those cards is another mini-card....but in order to get the mini-card, you have to rip open (ruin) the big card. Not my thing, but if there are collectors that enjoy it, then I have no problem with Topps making it. Love it or hate it, it's creative.

Here's a ripped RIP that recently sold on Ebay. Pretty strong market even for ripped RIP cards. Thanks for sharing that, it sure is interesting for many reasons.

The only reason I got this card was , my son and Brandon played in Sayreville Little League together, against each other and were on the All Stars. My son a front tire carrier in NASCAR

[JollyElm]

The 'good' news is next year they will add EXTRA-MINI Blue Refractors, EXTRA-MINI Blue Wave Refractors, and EXTRA-MINI AUTO Purple Refractors to the mix, too, and on it goes.