Fake 1915 Cracker Jack in PSA holder...wow!

[DWS44]

Latest Update...

The card is on its way back to PSA for the rest of the song and dance. Got a follow-up call from their "Chief of Staff" (LOL) yesterday afternoon and she emailed a label for FedEx overnight. Supposedly she is handling the card upon arrival and it is supposed to go straight to their top grader. I forgot his fancy title. She pretty much led off that I didn't qualify for their "guarantee" since I was the one who submitted it. No shock there. Assuming its declared a fake, I get a refund of the PSA fees I paid and she offered me all of a free PSA membership of some sort and maybe a few free grades, all of which I told her was pretty much useless to me at this point. Already sold most of my high-value cards that would have gotten any benefit from that anyways. Pretty much as everyone expected...the price you pay for trying to go the honest route, I suppose.

Anyways...that's where it stands. Now back to your regularly-scheduled PSA Screw Up Gallery already in progress!

[oldeboo]

Originally Posted by DWS44

Latest Update...

The card is on its way back to PSA for the rest of the song and dance. Got a follow-up call from their "Chief of Staff" (LOL) yesterday afternoon and she emailed a label for FedEx overnight. Supposedly she is handling the card upon arrival and it is supposed to go straight to their top grader. I forgot his fancy title. She pretty much led off that I didn't qualify for their "guarantee" since I was the one who submitted it. No shock there. Assuming its declared a fake, I get a refund of the PSA fees I paid and she offered me all of a free PSA membership of some sort and maybe a few free grades, all of which I told her was pretty much useless to me at this point. Already sold most of my high-value cards that would have gotten any benefit from that anyways. Pretty much as everyone expected...the price you pay for trying to go the honest route, I suppose.

Anyways...that's where it stands. Now back to your regularly-scheduled PSA Screw Up Gallery already in progress!

Wow!

[jingram058]

I have old cards, all of them raw, ungraded. I do not want them graded. I have had many trade offers for some of the cards I have. The only trades I have followed through on are raw cards-for-cards, no money involved. Most recently, quite a few 1959-60-61 and several 1962 Topps stars/HOF's for an equitable number of 1952 Topps and 1953 Bowman color. Everything was above board. Checked with loupe, blacklight, hands on examination and "feel". Can't do that with a big PSA or whoever slab. I like to "hands on" my cards, like I did as a kid. No stress, no obsessive worries. We both walked away from our trade happy as we could be. I've read through this whole ordeal, and cannot help but wonder if this old card could have been ID'ed real or fake right up front without the PSA slab?

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by jingram058

I've read through this whole ordeal, and cannot help but wonder if this old card could have been ID'ed real or fake right up front without the PSA slab?

The perforations by themselves made it an obvious reprint. All the others things wrong about it (cardstock, erasure over REPRINT, wear, coloration, print quality) would only take an extra few seconds for most experts to deem it fake, no matter whether it was slabbed or not.

[Fred]

Should have kept it or auctioned it off. I bet there would have been a few people here willing to put up some cash for it. I'd have paid a hundred for it easy!

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Fred

Should have kept it or auctioned it off. I bet there would have been a few people here willing to put up some cash for it. I'd have paid a hundred for it easy!

And what auction house would have the balls to auction that card off??

[oldeboo]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

And what auction house would have the balls to auction that card off??

Net54 b/s/t auction

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by DWS44

Latest Update...

The card is on its way back to PSA for the rest of the song and dance. Got a follow-up call from their "Chief of Staff" (LOL) yesterday afternoon and she emailed a label for FedEx overnight. Supposedly she is handling the card upon arrival and it is supposed to go straight to their top grader. I forgot his fancy title. She pretty much led off that I didn't qualify for their "guarantee" since I was the one who submitted it. No shock there. Assuming its declared a fake, I get a refund of the PSA fees I paid and she offered me all of a free PSA membership of some sort and maybe a few free grades, all of which I told her was pretty much useless to me at this point. Already sold most of my high-value cards that would have gotten any benefit from that anyways. Pretty much as everyone expected...the price you pay for trying to go the honest route, I suppose.

Anyways...that's where it stands. Now back to your regularly-scheduled PSA Screw Up Gallery already in progress!

Seeing as you had nothing to lose/gain from PSA...you really should not have returned the card to them...oh well?

[tiger8mush]

Originally Posted by DWS44

Assuming its declared a fake, I get a refund of the PSA fees I paid and she offered me all of a free PSA membership of some sort and maybe a few free grades, all of which I told her was pretty much useless to me at this point.

Splitting hairs, but it's not a fake. Its an altered & artificially aged 1982(?) Dover Reprint.

[Eric72]

If all the original submitter will get is a membership they won’t use, why not:

1- Keep the card as a curiosity

OR

2- Auction it here

[conor912]

Originally Posted by Eric72

If all the original submitter will get is a membership they won’t use, why not:

1- Keep the card as a curiosity

OR

2- Auction it here

As someone mentioned, anything other than destroying it all but ensures that at some point it would re-emerge into the hobby and cause more problems. Despite feeling like the OP got hosed, it was the right thing to do for the hobby.

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by conor912

As someone mentioned, anything other than destroying it all but ensures that at some point it would reemergence into the hobby and cause more problems. Despite feeling like the OP got hosed, it was the right thing to do for the hobby.

You’re right, of course. I’m curious, though. What will PSA do with this card if they determine it was their error?

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by Eric72

You’re right, of course. I’m curious, though. What will PSA do with this card if they determine it was their error?

Well, they can destroy it and remove the cert number once they reimburse the owner. It's a beat up 1970s reprint card. No value.

[DWS44]

Just in case anyone was on pins and needles for PSA's review today, by the time the delivery got routed to the person looking out for it, the grand poobah of grading had left for the day...so that's that until Monday.

[Rookiemonster]

How can shady stuff like this continue to happen? Card collectors keep falling for the same old crap.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by tiger8mush

Splitting hairs, but it's not a fake. Its an altered & artificially aged 1982(?) Dover Reprint.

right! it would not surprise me if the card were returned to the owner slabbed...wait for it...it's psa's favorite..."questionable authenticity!"

[DWS44]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

right! it would not surprise me if the card were returned to the owner slabbed...wait for it...it's psa's favorite..."questionable authenticity!"

Got the return package back last night and you were close...not slabbed, but in a card saver with PSA sticker across the front with "? AUTHTCT"...

https://imgur.com/KjMIow6

They tossed in a few "extras" in the return package. Two books, a PSA Card Display/Frame, Magazine, and a ballcap...

https://imgur.com/DUNpOp5

It'll all be up on ebay at some point soon if anyone sees something they can't live without. lol

[oldeboo]

Sick hat

[DWS44]

Originally Posted by oldeboo

Sick hat

I haven't tried it on to see it if fits or not.

[MikeGarcia]

Originally Posted by DWS44

I haven't tried it on to see it if fits or not.

...are there any autographs on that cap ? "Joe" ??..."Brent"" ??

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