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Old 10-27-2020, 08:26 AM
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Default Shoeless Joe Jackson Black Sox Babe Ruth

So found this one and sent it to Goldin in case any one is interested, bidding currently is waaaaaaay low, in my opinion, thought it would get to 2K easily, we'll see, go get yourself a steal and a historic ball if it stays this crazy low:

https://goldinauctions.com/1920_New_...-LOT66310.aspx

So what appears to be just a ground rule double off the bat of John "Shano" Collins of the White Sox in a Sept 18, 1920 game, so what's so significant about that?.....

Well.....

On September 18, 1920 in a highly anticipated match-up between the New York Yankees and the Chicago White Sox at Comiskey Park, no one there would know this would be last ever meeting of 2 of baseballs greatest titans.

Also, just 8 Games later Shoeless Joe Jackson and the other Black Sox, comprising the “8 Men Out”, would never play another game, as they were suspended from playing baseball for their alleged role in the 1919 World Series.

Babe Ruth, who in his first year with the Yanks with his new MLB record of 49 Home Runs in a season, strolled into Chicago as the packed house hoped to see Ruth hit the prior unimaginable #50. Little did they know they were witnessing something of even greater significance that day. Ruth & Jackson’s final meeting.

7 of the 8 Black Sox were there that day. Gandil, who they say took the majority of the dirty money, had retired after the 1919 Series so he didn’t play in 1920. With only Lefty Williams on the bench the other 6 all played on this September day with Eddie Cicotte on the mound. Was this ball pitched by Cicotte at some point? Possibly.

The Ball which is marked September 18, although while it may look like 17 to the naked eye, under magnifying glass the tight loop can be seen on the lower half of the 8. The mention of Yankees pitcher Bob McGraw & the John “Shano” Collins Double also confirm it was the 18th as that was the only game in the 3 game series Collins hit a double of McGraw. Of note Shoeless Joe Jackson was intentionally walked prior to Collins double so it’s quite possible this was the very ball pitched to Shoeless. The ball definitely then hit by Collins, most likely a ground rule double, as that would explain the balls notation and make sense that’s how this lucky fan obtained the ball, thus Shoeless Joe was driven in with this very ball.

The White Sox would go on to handily defeat the Yankees 15-9. Ruth would go 1 for 4 with a walk, and the fans did not get to see him hit #50 on that day. But again what they saw was of even greater note, as Ruth and Jackson would never meet again on the same ball field. The 8 men out would only play 8 more games and then they were gone from baseball for good! So this ball is quite possibly the latest existing ball from Shoeless Joe Jackson’s career!!!
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Old 10-27-2020, 10:37 AM
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Default Game used baseballs

I have one I recently acquired. Attached are pics that match up to this ball.
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Old 10-27-2020, 10:40 AM
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Default Game used baseballs

I have one I recently acquired....Ball is dated 8/8/24...with the final score and opposing team listed. Looks like everything matches up.
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Old 10-27-2020, 12:00 PM
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I actually owned that Kelly Foul Ball long ago. It's definitely good.

Hit by a HOFer - gotta love that.

High Pockets!!

Also like that it's from the Polo Grounds.

Just a very neat ball!
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Old 10-27-2020, 02:55 PM
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I know every collector is different, and many sell or trade to get something else they want, but man oh man I could never part with any of these balls...they are sooooo cool.
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Old 10-27-2020, 03:06 PM
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One of Mariano's legendary saves:

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Old 01-25-2021, 12:29 PM
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Default 1919 Game Used World Series Baseball

All, in case any of you have any interest. I have this ball currently at Goldin ending this Sunday night:

https://goldinauctions.com/1919_Worl...-LOT73166.aspx

It was a killer find, now hoping it finds a good home.

Would be a centerpiece for any collection and quite the conversation piece.

Game used balls from the 1919 Black Sox World Series rarely come up, 1 at Mile High last year then 1 at Heritage in 2015 (links below) and only another 1 or 2 since 2000.

So if you are on the fence go for it, as who knows when another will come around, and most likely not one signed by a player who played in it and was shoulder to shoulder with Shoeless Joe and the other Black Sox, and Clean Sox.

Mile High one:
https://www.milehighcardco.com/LotDe...entoryid=74286

Heritage one:
https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/1...ription-071515


Bidding is still LOW at Goldin, if you want a shot at a historic item!
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