Anyone regrade? or Swap companies? Break open and resubmit?

[bnorth]

I have only done it once. I wanted to upgrade a card in a SGC complete graded set. I bought a PSA card and when I got it I was worried it was slightly over graded. I cracked it out and sent it to SGC and luckily they gave it the same grade.

[bobbyw8469]

Clemente looks like a 2 or 2.5 at best. I see really weak corners on it, and you say it has a surface wrinkle, so that is where I am placing my wager.

[JohnnyKilroy]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Clemente looks like a 2 or 2.5 at best. I see really weak corners on it, and you say it has a surface wrinkle, so that is where I am placing my wager.

Corners are definitely worn. They are better than the pic though. Wrinkle is about 1/2 inch long. I like your guess, it was about what I’ would’ve guessed... although I’ve seen 3s in much worse condition.

[Harford20]

Like Ben, played that "game" once.

Had a 1959 Fleer Ted Williams #68. Thought PSA7 on my evaluation. Came back a PSA6. Just couldn't understand (or agree with the grade). Cracked it out, sent it in again, and what-do-you-know, came back a PSA5. Now pissed, I cracked it and sent it in again. Third grade was a PSA 5.5. I quit. Cost over $40 for grading plus the shipping and time.

David

[Frank A]

I never ever send in a card in someone elses holder. Break em out or don't bother. Graders seem to hate giving the same grade to a card in another holder.

[JohnnyKilroy]

Originally Posted by Frank A

I never ever send in a card in someone elses holder. Break em out or don't bother. Graders seem to hate giving the same grade to a card in another holder.

My thoughts exactly.

[mechanicalman]

My experience would echo the sentiment of others: it's best to crack and submit. Though I would question the utility of doing so with lower grades. If you're thinking about doing it for resale, my bet is that a 2.5 that looks like a 3.5 will probably hammer at a 3.5 price in a decent auction. If you're talking about trying to get a 9 into a 10 holder, that's a different story. (And that's where I think you hear about most dudes submitting multiple times.)

[rats60]

Originally Posted by Harford20

Like Ben, played that "game" once.

Had a 1959 Fleer Ted Williams #68. Thought PSA7 on my evaluation. Came back a PSA6. Just couldn't understand (or agree with the grade). Cracked it out, sent it in again, and what-do-you-know, came back a PSA5. Now pissed, I cracked it and sent it in again. Third grade was a PSA 5.5. I quit. Cost over $40 for grading plus the shipping and time.

David

I had a Joe Morgan RC that I sent in, it came back a PSA 5. I though it was undergraded, but when I couldn't sell it for a decent price, I cracked it and resubmitted it. It came back a PSA 7 and I sold it for more than I had been asking.

[JollyElm]

I gotta say, just sort of as a business/marketing theory. You're SGC and considered by collectors to be second banana behind PSA (for general resale value, that is). If you want business to grow, it would be very advantageous to regrade cards currently in PSA holders up to (slightly?) higher grades, to keep the happy customer coming back to you and NOT PSA. It's a very cynical view of things, of course, but it may support leaving a card in the holder for a regrade.

[riggs336]

I sent two dozen SGCs to PSA for crossover. Half came back the same grade, half came back lower. One SGC 4 came back PSA 2.5. Lesson learned, now I crack 'em out.

[JohnnyKilroy]

Originally Posted by riggs336

I sent two dozen SGCs to PSA for crossover. Half came back the same grade, half came back lower. One SGC 4 came back PSA 2.5. Lesson learned, now I crack 'em out.

Definitely cracking. That Clemente I posted was a 1.5. I think it should be a 2.5 easy. I’ll throw it in my next (first!) big submission. But I’ve got a bunch of 3-5 grades that could easily be higher as well. Should be an interesting experience!

[JohnnyKilroy]

Originally Posted by JollyElm

I gotta say, just sort of as a business/marketing theory. You're SGC and considered by collectors to be second banana behind PSA (for general resale value, that is). If you want business to grow, it would be very advantageous to regrade cards currently in PSA holders up to (slightly?) higher grades, to keep the happy customer coming back to you and NOT PSA. It's a very cynical view of things, of course, but it may support leaving a card in the holder for a regrade.

Great theory.. I could see it!

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by Harford20

Like Ben, played that "game" once.

Had a 1959 Fleer Ted Williams #68. Thought PSA7 on my evaluation. Came back a PSA6. Just couldn't understand (or agree with the grade). Cracked it out, sent it in again, and what-do-you-know, came back a PSA5. Now pissed, I cracked it and sent it in again. Third grade was a PSA 5.5. I quit. Cost over $40 for grading plus the shipping and time.

David

Now that's funny... reason # 498 to just leave the card inside the stupid plastic slabs and don't try to game the system. It is what it is. Enjoy it!!!!!!

[JohnnyKilroy]

Originally Posted by bnorth

I have only done it once. I wanted to upgrade a card in a SGC complete graded set. I bought a PSA card and when I got it I was worried it was slightly over graded. I cracked it out and sent it to SGC and luckily they gave it the same grade.

I think the majority of people I’ve talked to that resubmit for a better grade, crack and submit raw. Makes more sense to me.