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Old 09-26-2020, 03:43 AM
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Day 270 (September 26, 2020 – 270)

On September 26, 1971, Jim Palmer wins his 20th game of the year against the Cleveland Indians, becoming the fourth Oriole pitcher to win 20 games in the season. Jim Palmer had a season ending record of 20-10, Dave McNally went 21-5, Mike Cuellar went 20-9 and Pat Dobson ended with a 20-8 record.

The four 20 game winners in their orange Oriole uniforms

Day 270 a Photo 1971 20 game winners Orioles pitchers.jpg

Same picture, cropped differently, of the 20 game winners signed

Day 270 b Photo 1971 20 game winners signed.jpg

A B&W photo of the 20 game winners signed

Day 270 c Photo 1971 20 Game Winners signed (2).jpg

Below is the 1971 Orioles Yearbook to celebrate the year…

Day 270 d Publication 1971 Orioles Yearbook 1.jpg
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Old 09-26-2020, 08:03 AM
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Default Junk Wax Variations

I'm sure all of us at some point have had our collections stall for one reason or another. Maybe it was a limited hobby budget, growing families, career or other priorities focused us in other areas. For me as my collection grew, I found myself only needing some items that were either very rare and/or out of my price range (it is still a hobby). In the case of my quest to find O's minor league affiliate programs, they just aren't out there to be found. Supply and demand. No supply and I'm the only demand.

This led me to some low cost, yet interesting to me, projects. The flood of cards into the market during the late 80's and early 90's created what are commonly known as "junk wax cards". Granted you are never going to send your kids to college with them, but the mass printings resulted in multiple print runs or printers be used during the period. This resulted in many sets having large numbers of variations.

What started out as something to keep me busy, has been a lot of fun also. If you have younger kids, they might enjoy helping out. Over the next few weeks, I'll try to post some of my findings. If anyone has questions, I'll be happy to share what I know so far.

I'm going to start out with some of the easier sets. If you're already bored, you will not enjoy the 1989 Donruss set (up to six different cards of each player). Disclaimer up front... Some sets have different backs that glow under a black light, etc. I'm not that crazy yet..


1987 Donruss

The fronts of the cards are the same, but the backs of the wax pack cards and factory sets have a different orientation on the back. The only difference I can see on the Diamond King cards is lighter or darker print.

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1990 Donruss

There are several different things to look at with the 1990 cards. The border pattern on the front of the cards are different between the wax pack cards and factory sets. The Ripken on the far right is from a factory set. The cards from wax packs can also be found with either Leaf, INC (no period) or Leaf, INC. (with period) on the back of the cards. All the factory sets have the INC. (with period) variation. This creates three different cards for each player.

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1991 Donruss

Same notes as the 1990 Donruss set.

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1992 Donruss

The 1992 Donruss cards have the same fronts, but do have the INC / INC. variation. Two different cards per player.

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1992 Leaf

The 1992 Leaf set has the same INC / INC. variations. However, in the Black Gold set, I have found the variations only in the second series (numbers 300 and up)

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Old 09-26-2020, 12:28 PM
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I'm sure all of us at some point have had our collections stall for one reason or another. Maybe it was a limited hobby budget, growing families, career or other priorities focused us in other areas. For me as my collection grew, I found myself only needing some items that were either very rare and/or out of my price range (it is still a hobby). In the case of my quest to find O's minor league affiliate programs, they just aren't out there to be found. Supply and demand. No supply and I'm the only demand.

This led me to some low cost, yet interesting to me, projects. The flood of cards into the market during the late 80's and early 90's created what are commonly known as "junk wax cards". Granted you are never going to send your kids to college with them, but the mass printings resulted in multiple print runs or printers be used during the period. This resulted in many sets having large numbers of variations.

What started out as something to keep me busy, has been a lot of fun also. If you have younger kids, they might enjoy helping out. Over the next few weeks, I'll try to post some of my findings. If anyone has questions, I'll be happy to share what I know so far.

I'm going to start out with some of the easier sets. If you're already bored, you will not enjoy the 1989 Donruss set (up to six different cards of each player). Disclaimer up front... Some sets have different backs that glow under a black light, etc. I'm not that crazy yet..


1987 Donruss

The fronts of the cards are the same, but the backs of the wax pack cards and factory sets have a different orientation on the back. The only difference I can see on the Diamond King cards is lighter or darker print.

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1990 Donruss

There are several different things to look at with the 1990 cards. The border pattern on the front of the cards are different between the wax pack cards and factory sets. The Ripken on the far right is from a factory set. The cards from wax packs can also be found with either Leaf, INC (no period) or Leaf, INC. (with period) on the back of the cards. All the factory sets have the INC. (with period) variation. This creates three different cards for each player.

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1991 Donruss

Same notes as the 1990 Donruss set.

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1992 Donruss

The 1992 Donruss cards have the same fronts, but do have the INC / INC. variation. Two different cards per player.

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1992 Leaf

The 1992 Leaf set has the same INC / INC. variations. However, in the Black Gold set, I have found the variations only in the second series (numbers 300 and up)

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Nice review of the junk wax era variations. Its nice to see all the variations side by side.
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After all of the fantastic, even historic, posts to this thread, just a quick question...will the Orioles ever acknowledge their St. Louis Browns ancestry?
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After all of the fantastic, even historic, posts to this thread, just a quick question...will the Orioles ever acknowledge their St. Louis Browns ancestry?
No; never heard of them

Here’s the real question; will the Yankees acknowledge their roots?
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Day 271 (September 27, 2020 – 271)

In 1964 Brooks’ took home the American League MVP honors with his best offensive season of his career and a league leading 118 RBI’s. Below is a dugout photo, taken by Neil Leifer, from the 1964 season; you can see the relaxed atmosphere the Orioles had in the visiting dugout. Man, the Orioles had a good run in 1964.

Day 271 a Photo 1964 Orioles Dugout Neil Leifer.jpg

I know the 1964 Topps Giant #50 card has been shown in the thread, but this is just a great card from a great year. Has the back of the card been shown with the spring training diving pose?!?

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Old 09-27-2020, 04:47 AM
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Love that Mark has the new post for the day up at 6 a.m. on a Sunday morning! Great way to start the day.

I love the 64 Topps Giants set. Wish Topps would have included Roger Maris and Pete Rose (a little earlier in his career to pick Rose)
If these cards would have been regular card size they would get my vote as the best Topps issue from the 60s! I am a big fan of the 64 Stand Ups too.
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