1966 Topps High's - Any uncut sheets or partial sheets known?

[Kevvyg1026]

542 is to the left of the potential spot I suspect is occupied by 595.

I still need a miscut to firmly identify this, but I suspect that 598, 583, & 569 are in columns 6, 7, & 8 of row C whereas 542 would be in column 5 of row D, with 595 & 523 in columns 6 & 7 of row D.

[BillP]

Originally Posted by Kevvyg1026

542 is to the left of the potential spot I suspect is occupied by 595.

I still need a miscut to firmly identify this, but I suspect that 598, 583, & 569 are in columns 6, 7, & 8 of row C whereas 542 would be in column 5 of row D, with 595 & 523 in columns 6 & 7 of row D.

I agree. I'd take that leap. With this are all the non SP rows i.e. the 4 per sheet now identified? so all that is left are the suspected true sp's albeit placement on some are still unknown?

Great stuff.

[Kevvyg1026]

If 595 & 523 are in row D, then we know all cards in row A, D, & E (i.e., the non-SP) rows and what remains are to identify the placement of 6 cards from row B, 4 cards from row C, and 3 cards from row G, all of which should be cards identified as SPs (except for 517, W. Sox variation).

[toppcat]

SP's (real and imagined) are looking like a combination or influence of:

• Composition or technical issues (pulling a row, subbing another real quick) prior to printing
• Number of impressions per card on the sheets
• Card coordinate on sheet
• Superstars being called SP's instead of "high demand"
• Collation and Packaging Damage
• Original Distribution skewing pops
• Boxes being opened in the old hobby days with bad collation
• After Market Events (1975 Card Collectors Co fire) skewing remaining inventories

Most years seem to follow a 4:3 or 3:2 ratio for overprints but some like 1967 seem to have an outlier row.

[Kevvyg1026]

As mentioned in an earlier Post, the 67 highs most likely had one row printed 5x, one row 4x, and the other five rows 3x. Then, all the other factors mentioned above also came into play.

[toppcat]

Originally Posted by Kevvyg1026

As mentioned in an earlier Post, the 67 highs most likely had one row printed 5x, one row 4x, and the other five rows 3x. Then, all the other factors mentioned above also came into play.

I'm thinking the fifth 5X row was a last minute sub for one of the others. It's too out of sequence, even for Topps, otherwise.

[JollyElm]

Updated...

[Kevvyg1026]

The pattern I observed for many of the 77 card print series was as follows:

Slit 1: A, B, C, D, E, A, F, G, B, C, D, E
Slit 2: x1, x2, A, F, G, B, C, D, E, A, F, G

x1 & x2 varied between series and year but I have not seen any pattern to that Topps procedure other than that shown above.

In 1965, series 5, x1 & x2 were row B and row C (Blanchard & Drabowsky); in 1965, series 7, x1 & x2 were row C (Wyatt) and row E (Hiller). I have not acquired enough information to determine the pattern used in series 6.

In 1966, I haven't completely determine the pattern for series 5, but the row with Downing and the row with Kuenn are repeated at the top of a sheet, so I think that x1 & x2 were rows B & C. I don't have sufficient information for series 6, but for series 7, the miscuts and information I've seen, lead me to think that x1 & x2 were rows D & E (taylor & Salmon).

and for series 6, 1969, x1 & x2 were C (newman) & D (green).

In 1967, they used rows A (Pinson) & F (Rohr) for x1 & x2 at the top of the 2nd slit in series 7.

[BillP]

Originally Posted by Kevvyg1026

If 595 & 523 are in row D, then we know all cards in row A, D, & E (i.e., the non-SP) rows and what remains are to identify the placement of 6 cards from row B, 4 cards from row C, and 3 cards from row G, all of which should be cards identified as SPs (except for 517, W. Sox variation).

There is an ebay offer for a miscut 517 w. sox on right now that has a thin black/grey down the bottom half of the right of the card. I think Ill but it just to remind me of this thread. My guess it's a b or c row card. What other sp cards that are left based on miscuts, i.e. very wide right border could be the other 2? guesses?