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Old 08-11-2020, 01:03 PM
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brown lenox is 10 X harder to distinguish than brown old mill
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Old 08-11-2020, 02:34 PM
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brown lenox is 10 X harder to distinguish than brown old mill
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Old 08-11-2020, 03:37 PM
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There is a bigger variance in the Brown with the Lenox vs the Brown Old Mills
from card to card

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But it's still like night and day if you put a Brown Lenox next to a Black Lenox

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or even a Cairo Monopol

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Here's half a brown back :-)

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or even a Cairo Monopol

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Well, well what do you know....here we have a "black" CAIRO MONOPOL back ! This T80 image has to be the converse printing error of a brown LENOX (and, just as rare).
Or, this scan was simply photo-shopped to appear "blackish".



T80's CAIRO MONOPOL backs were printed with varying shades of BROWN ink....such as this example.....





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It's not photo-shopped Ted

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Great, then it's back is "black". First one that I've seen. I have an assortment of about 60 cards of T80's with CAIRO MONOPOL (CM), LENOX, TOLSTOI, UZIT, and Blank-backs.
My 50-card set is near complete set.

In an inverse way, your "black" back CM card supports my theory which I noted in post #10 in this thread (i.e., the brown LENOX T206's are the result of printer's mistaken ink
application on a press run of T206 LENOX cards. And why brown ink ? Because the prior press run was CM cards. So, your CM card with the "black" is the result of vice-versa.
The more significant factor that reinforces my theory is the fact that ONLY Group B subjects of the 350/460 series have been found with the brown LENOX backs.

Printer's errors such as this have also resulted in other T206 backs having the wrong color.


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Great, then it's back is "black". First one that I've seen. I have an assortment of about 60 cards of T80's with CAIRO MONOPOL (CM), LENOX, TOLSTOI, UZIT, and Blank-backs.
My 50-card set is near complete set.

In an inverse way, your "black" back CM card supports my theory which I noted in post #10 in this thread (i.e., the brown LENOX T206's are the result of printer's mistaken ink
application on a press run of T206 LENOX cards. And why brown ink ? Because the prior press run was CM cards. So, your CM card with the "black" is the result of vice-versa.
The more significant factor that reinforces my theory is the fact that ONLY Group B subjects of the 350/460 series have been found with the brown LENOX backs.

Printer's errors such as this have also resulted in other T206 backs having the wrong color.


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Hey Ted,
I was posting to show how the Brown Lenox stands out when compared to the Black Lenox and the Cairo Monopol it had nothing to do with your
theory. As a matter of fact your group theory mirrors what I posted 5 years ago with the exception of Ames who is to use Scot Readers phrase is a rule breaker.

I posted this thread 5 years ago

https://www.net54baseball.com/showth...ighlight=Lenox

It didn't receive a response but I brought it up again in one of your threads

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Your response was it was worth tracking and coincidentally
a few months later you started your Brown Lenox theory
that with the exception of Ames mirrored what I posted.

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