1966 Topps High's - Any uncut sheets or partial sheets known?

[Kevvyg1026]

I am almost positive that White Sox is 6th series and W.Sox is 7th series.

Also, the Piersall card is in column 2 of the sheet, so it must be above either 568, 588, 540, 562, 530, or 535 and not above Dick Green. I lean towards either 568 or 588. And if it's 568, then that means another miscut (Adair above R Sox rookies) can locate Adair in column 6 of the Hoerner row.

[Kevvyg1026]

We do not know the row location of the following cards: 517, 523, 528, 531, 532, 538, 541, 549, 552, 553, 556, 566, 569, 570, 576, 582, 583, 586, 587, 590, 592, 595, 597, or 598.

We do know:
a. 598 is above 595
b. 597, 592, 549 are in same row
c. 517 should be at end of row
d. 532 and 552 are in same row
e. 583 and 569 are in same row, while 583 and 523 are in same column
f. we know every card in columns 1 through 5 for all seven rows.

Very helpful finds would include:
a. cards to right of 561, 533, 542, 537, 543, 598, 595 or
b. above 533, 538, 579, 537
c. left of 517, 598, 595, 583, 597
d. below Northrup row but excluding Mantilla row. In other words, we already know 558 borders 593, 573/563, 536/578, 529/548, 572/524, and 574/539 but other combos would be helpful.

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by Kevvyg1026

Also, the Piersall card is in column 2 of the sheet, so it must be above either 568, 588, 540, 562, 530, or 535 and not above Dick Green. I lean towards either 568 or 588. And if it's 568, then that means another miscut (Adair above R Sox rookies) can locate Adair in column 6 of the Hoerner row.

You’re right, the trees from the Green card that my eyes were seeing is actually chipping on the black border line. I kept having the same problem looking at 1963 cards, chipping on the black border lines on the edges of miscut cards. I shouldn’t have posted that one.

[Kevvyg1026]

This is why I think the White Sox variation is the 6th series printing (in addition to the available quantity) and why I believe W. Sox variation is at far right of sheet.517_edge.jpg

517_maked_2.jpg

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[Kevvyg1026]

any guesses? Sorry, but it's the best image I could get556.JPG

[Kevvyg1026]

Any guesses?MC_29.jpg

[Cliff Bowman]

Boy, do I feel like an idiot now. I didn’t join this thread until halfway through, but I should have looked through it carefully from the start. I didn’t realize there were scans of all of those partial sheets in posts 20-22 and 25, it would have made a world of difference in what I have looked for and what I have posted. Oh well.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

Boy, do I feel like an idiot now. I didn’t join this thread until halfway through, but I should have looked through it carefully from the start. I didn’t realize there were scans of all of those partial sheets in posts 20-22 and 25, it would have made a world of difference in what I have looked for and what I have posted. Oh well.

Don’t! Thank you for your work here, you’ve found more than the rest of us have combined in like 3 years sign I started this thread lol.

We are getting close to piecing together a sheet I think, not just what the rows were.


Also:
On eBay there is a 591 Jackson with the back of 406 Joe Jay. 406 is a 5th series card of course, but if a sheet was ran with the series 7 fronts and the series 5 backs (using a half printed 5 sheet as scrap for testing?), and a series 5 sheet is known, it could indicate where on the sheet one of Jackson’s appearances was.

I have a 406 Jay somewhere that is wildly miscut and shows it was a border card at bottom, and I think left corner. I will dig out tomorrow and share here, but thus may be more evidence to support our hypothesis that a Jackson was a bottom row corner card

[Kevvyg1026]

All the miscuts you have posted are helpful; sometime a miscut will appear that has a different card touching (top or bottom) which helps establish the actual row patterns in different sheet locations or can help identify other pieces of info.

Knowing that Perry is above Jackson is useful even though we don't know which of two rows to put them yet as is knowing that Tigers team is next to McFarlane, and it's above Sadowski.

I strongly suspect that we will discover that the SPs listed in the price guides are not completely correct and certainly do not correspond with what the sheet patterns reveal.

Just like what was discovered with the 6th and 7th series 63s, lots of digging, logic, and analysis is required in order to determine what Topps actually did, even though what is discovered may go against what the hobby and/or hobby guides have used for the past 30 years or so.

I hope to do the same for the second half-sheet of 67s and 65s as well in the near future.