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Old 06-27-2020, 05:01 AM
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I have been attempting to determine the rows in which various cards were located for the 1966 high numbers and came across this oddity for Larry Jackson, # 595 and this one for Gaylord Perry # 598. [ATTACH]1966_598_scratch_1.jpg[/ATTACH]
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Old 06-27-2020, 05:43 AM
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I have been attempting to determine the rows in which various cards were located for the 1966 high numbers and came across this oddity for Larry Jackson, # 595 and this one for Gaylord Perry # 598. [ATTACH]Attachment 406859[/ATTACH]
Never saw that one before. With any card where there are 2 sheets I'm not surprised with cropping differences or this type item.
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Old 06-27-2020, 05:59 PM
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I don't know much about 1966 and 1967 Topps high number short prints, I did some searching for miscut 1966 short prints and was surprised at how few I could find that went into an adjacent card. It wasn't an extensive search but these were all I could find. I don't know if the Tebbetts is considered an SP or not.
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Old 06-28-2020, 02:50 AM
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Thanks. That helps identify that Choo Choo (561) is definitely next to Chance (564) and that Tebbets (552) is below Choo Choo and in the row headed by Cards rookies. The Clarke (547) is above Horlen (560) as shown in that miscut. Interestingly, I have been scouring ebay for the last month and not seen those miscut cards. Where did you find them?
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Old 06-28-2020, 02:56 AM
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And Tebbets (552) is adjacent to Siebler (546)
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Old 06-28-2020, 03:22 AM
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Default 1966 Topps 7th series rows updated

Based on the miscut information shown, we can positively identify the following:

Row A (COMPLETE ROW OF 11): 554 Northrup SP, 568 A’s Rookies, 584 Yankees Rookies, 581 Tony Martinez, 534 Mets Rookies, 558 Red Sox Rookies, 573 Griffith, 536 Egan, 529 White Sox Rookies, 572 Priddy, 574 Mets Rookies

Row B (COMPLETE ROW OF 11): 557 Mantilla, 588 A’s Rookies, 545 Dick Green SP, 526 Twins Team SP, 589 Klimchock, 593 Camilli, 563 Twins Rookies, 578 Olivio SP, 548 Kroll SP, 524 Giants Rookies, 539 Astro’s Rookies

Row C (START OF ROW CONFIRMED): 591 Rookies (Grant Jackson) SP , 540 McClain SP, 567 Howser SP, 527 Navarro, 577 Lamabe SP, 596 Astro’s Rookies SP, 551 Purkey SP, 543 Craig SP

Row D (START OF ROW CONFIRMED): 555 Perranoski SP, 562 Snyder, 559 Pena SP, 564 Chance SP, 561 Coleman SP

Row E (START OF ROW CONFIRMED): 544 Cards Rookies SP, 565 Piersall SP, 547 Clarke SP, 546 Siebler, 552 Tebbets SP

Row F (START OF ROW CONFIRMED): 585 Taylor, 530 Robin Roberts, 560 Horlen, 571 Dave Roberts SP

Row G (START OF ROW CONFIRMED): 594 Salmon, 535 Willie Davis SP, 575 Wilson, 580 Williams SP

The McCovey 4 card strip (550 McCovey SP, 533 Adair SP, 579 Orioles Rookies, 537 Franks) must be a continuation of either row F or row G, and I lean towards row G because of the thick left edge border found on those cards). In addition, the Sullivan strip (597, 592, 549) must also be placed; the checklist (517) is most likely at the end of an SP row, and we know that Perry (598) is above Jackson (595).

In addition to the above 10 cards, the following card locations are unknown: 523, 525, 528, 531, 532, 538, 541, 542, 553, 556, 566, 569, 570, 576, 582, 583, 586, 587, 590.
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Based on the miscut information shown, we can positively identify the following:

Row A (COMPLETE ROW OF 11): 554 Northrup SP, 568 A’s Rookies, 584 Yankees Rookies, 581 Tony Martinez, 534 Mets Rookies, 558 Red Sox Rookies, 573 Griffith, 536 Egan, 529 White Sox Rookies, 572 Priddy, 574 Mets Rookies

Row B (COMPLETE ROW OF 11): 557 Mantilla, 588 A’s Rookies, 545 Dick Green SP, 526 Twins Team SP, 589 Klimchock, 593 Camilli, 563 Twins Rookies, 578 Olivio SP, 548 Kroll SP, 524 Giants Rookies, 539 Astro’s Rookies

Row C (START OF ROW CONFIRMED): 591 Rookies (Grant Jackson) SP , 540 McClain SP, 567 Howser SP, 527 Navarro, 577 Lamabe SP, 596 Astro’s Rookies SP, 551 Purkey SP, 543 Craig SP

Row D (START OF ROW CONFIRMED): 555 Perranoski SP, 562 Snyder, 559 Pena SP, 564 Chance SP, 561 Coleman SP

Row E (START OF ROW CONFIRMED): 544 Cards Rookies SP, 565 Piersall SP, 547 Clarke SP, 546 Siebler, 552 Tebbets SP

Row F (START OF ROW CONFIRMED): 585 Taylor, 530 Robin Roberts, 560 Horlen, 571 Dave Roberts SP

Row G (START OF ROW CONFIRMED): 594 Salmon, 535 Willie Davis SP, 575 Wilson, 580 Williams SP

The McCovey 4 card strip (550 McCovey SP, 533 Adair SP, 579 Orioles Rookies, 537 Franks) must be a continuation of either row F or row G, and I lean towards row G because of the thick left edge border found on those cards). In addition, the Sullivan strip (597, 592, 549) must also be placed; the checklist (517) is most likely at the end of an SP row, and we know that Perry (598) is above Jackson (595).

In addition to the above 10 cards, the following card locations are unknown: 523, 525, 528, 531, 532, 538, 541, 542, 553, 556, 566, 569, 570, 576, 582, 583, 586, 587, 590.
Does nt look like tebbets is next to siebler, siebler is blue not purple i think siebler is next to bell and tebbets is next to monteguido
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Thanks. That helps identify that Choo Choo (561) is definitely next to Chance (564) and that Tebbets (552) is below Choo Choo and in the row headed by Cards rookies. The Clarke (547) is above Horlen (560) as shown in that miscut. Interestingly, I have been scouring ebay for the last month and not seen those miscut cards. Where did you find them?
I scour eBay current and completed items, COMC, Dean’s Cards, WorthPoint and just plain ol’ Google searches. Sportslots and Amazon aren’t worth the trouble to look through. Unless I am misunderstanding you, that isn’t Tebbetts directly underneath Coleman, the card under Coleman has a clear blue sky and Tebbetts has obstructions at the top of his card. ETA: It looks like it could be one of two Indians, #525 Gary Bell or #538 Bob Allen, it looks like it can't be #547 Dick Howser or #581 Tony Martinez. It looks like Bell to me. I should have said partly cloudy rather than clear blue sky .
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Old 06-28-2020, 12:22 PM
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I don't know much about 1966 and 1967 Topps high number short prints, I did some searching for miscut 1966 short prints and was surprised at how few I could find that went into an adjacent card. It wasn't an extensive search but these were all I could find. I don't know if the Tebbetts is considered an SP or not.
I think it's gary bell under choo choo
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