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Old 06-24-2020, 04:18 PM
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Okay, here's what I've found...

There are 3 different back types, 5 different backs including litho companys.

I'll call them
A1 Leading Baseball Players- Giles & Liberty
A2 Leading Baseball Players- Donaldson Bros.
B Police, baseball, actors, jockeys - Julius Bien
C Police, baseball, actors, jockeys, chiefs of fire depts- Donaldson Bros
C2 " " -Ballin 1888

A1 Giles is only found in the "generic subset"
A2 Donaldson is only found in Lipset's "all the rest subset, or like images"
B Only found on most Browns cards, and actors and Jockeys and captains
C Found in all 3 of Lipset's subsets
D Only found on "type 2" Police captains

Here is the checklist coded by back so far. I'll post scans that I made later on.
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Old 06-24-2020, 04:39 PM
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Note that the front of the Browns cards with the "Chiefs of Fire Dept." backs are a little different than the Julius Bien backs. The shirts are a different shade of brownish-red.
The Van der ahe looks like the actors and jockeys with this same back, Julius Bien. I've sorted and grouped my cards by back. I still think the 3 traditional subsets are interesting, however I am no longer classifying my collection that way.
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Old 06-24-2020, 05:27 PM
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Here are some more scans by back. The Giles cards are the ones that give the Buchner cards a bad rap for being too generic. As many of you have mentioned, the artwork on the Donaldson cards is really good, although they also made some generic looking ones.
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So’ what is the price range for the Baseball players in this set. Thanks in advance. Joe
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Over the years I read posts with various explanation for the common blank backs that show up in this set ranging from skinned to cut from an advertising poster. Is there a clear idea of why they are blank backed?

I have several that do not appear to "skinned" nor hand cut?
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Of the 70 or so cards I have, about 10 are blank. I assume they are skinned. I have a couple of Mets cards that are thicker and may be from a Mets poster-type display as I have heard other collectors talk about thicker blank backed Mets cards. I do have Mets cards with the Donaldson printed backs. The poster-type "Block letters on front" usually have printed backs. Ballpark pricing Commons 150-300, stars 300-600, hofers 750-1200.
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Willie Haight had a pretty good run on this set.

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nice cards.....

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Of the 70 or so cards I have, about 10 are blank. I assume they are skinned. I have a couple of Mets cards that are thicker and may be from a Mets poster-type display as I have heard other collectors talk about thicker blank backed Mets cards. I do have Mets cards with the Donaldson printed backs. The poster-type "Block letters on front" usually have printed backs. Ballpark pricing Commons 150-300, stars 300-600, hofers 750-1200.
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