N284 Buchner Gold Coin Set

[yomass]

Doesn't this "set" consist of three different and distinct issues? The Browns were probably issued in 1887 following their 1886 championship. The two others are the generic poses (same pose for each position) and the non-generic poses (where the picture might actually look like the player). The latter two sets could have been printed in 1887 or 1888.

I am traveling and unable to check the backs in my collection, but do the different printers correspond to the different sets?

[RCMcKenzie]

Originally Posted by yomass

...do the different printers correspond to the different sets?

Thanks for chiming in on this point. I've been trying to figure out a pattern, but so far it just gets more confusing. I thought I was going to see all of the Browns' cards with the Julius Bien back that reads "actors & jockeys". Lipset calls this set Type 2 or Type B, Browns Champions. I have a Barkley with "Fire Chiefs" back. The card is miscut, so no Litho i.d. is present. Usually, the fire chief backs are by Donaldson and are found in Lipset's type A and Type C sets. I generally like to group cards by the backs, which makes the N284 set very confusing to me. I will continue to study it and post more as I learn more. So far, I have not found a front with multiple backs...Rob

[RCMcKenzie]

Here are some more scans of the subset "A" series of generic images. Note the different backs. Some have similar, but not exactly the same backgrounds, some have completely different...More later this week. If anyone wants to post front/back scans, it will help with the survey.

[RCMcKenzie]

The Keefe Scott posted in post #9 looks like it has the blue print back. The one I have has the darker colored ink, so, we know cards with the blue ink can be found with the black ink. Backs and Litho companies are the same though. The Welch looks like it belongs in n284, as shown...

[ValKehl]

I collect only Washington players. Here's what I have - hope these are helpful to those doing research:

- The first one - Farrell (with ball in left hand) - is a Donaldson with the Police Inspectors back.
- The next 3 - Craig (sic Crane), Farrell (with ball in both hands), & Hines (batter) - are Donaldsons with the "regular" Base-Ball Players backs.
- The last 8 - Carroll, Dailey, Donnelly, Gilligan, Hines (centre field), Myers, O'Brien, & Whitney - are Giles & Liberty with the "regular" Base-Ball Players backs.

As best as I can determine with a magnifier, all of these cards show an 1887 copyright date.

[ValKehl]

Here are the last 3 cards that didn't make it into my previous post:

[RCMcKenzie]

Thank you, Val, for posting those, great cards. I've been thinking out loud in this thread, and learning as I go. I can't believe how much information Lipset was able to gather for his guide pre-internet.

I will scan and post my Washington cards tomorrow, and lay out the backs, with my opinion on how I would group them. Even if you only have have a N284 as a type card, it would help if you posted it here. Thanks, Rob

[BaseballChuck]

Hello. Are either of your Paul Hines for sale? If not, would you by chance know where to get any GC or Old Judge of him? Thank you.

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by BaseballChuck

Hello. Are either of your Paul Hines for sale? If not, would you by chance know where to get any GC or Old Judge of him? Thank you.

Try using the instant messaging feature in the board by clicking on the person's screenname in their post and selecting "Send a private message to...." in the dropdown menu. It is normally considered bad taste to respond to a discussion thread asking about items being for sale or not.
You could also make a post in the Net54 Buy/Sell/Trade section under the appropriate sport and date range of the cards you're looking for.

[RCMcKenzie]

Originally Posted by BaseballChuck

Hello. Are either of your Paul Hines for sale? If not, would you by chance know where to get any GC or Old Judge of him? Thank you.

I'm making a lot of progress on this set, but I don't have either Hines, batter or CF. If I see an OJ Paul Hines for sale, I will let you know. Is Hines your relative? I'm glad you bumped this thread, as I enjoy reading about this topic.

[ValKehl]

Originally Posted by BaseballChuck

Hello. Are either of your Paul Hines for sale? If not, would you by chance know where to get any GC or Old Judge of him? Thank you.

Chuck, I just sent you a PM.