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[packs]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

If you really want to see what a lawless society looks like, read a history book. The Wild West already happened. I don't recommend repeating it, but what do I know.

The point he's been making over and over again is that this isn't a call to disband the police. It's a call to defund them. He has given you ample links to look over if you're confused about the intentions.

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by packs

The point he's been making over and over again is that this isn't a call to disband the police. It's a call to defund them. He has given you ample links to look over if you're confused about the intentions.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/minneap...ce-department/

Minneapolis City Council members say they plan to vote to disband city's police department

June 9, 2020 / 8:10 AM / CBS News

On Sunday afternoon, hundreds of people rallied at a Minneapolis park to call for more changes to the city's police department. Nine out of 13 Minneapolis City Council members stood up on the stage to announce their intent to disband the city's police department, CBS Minnesota reports.

The announcement comes after council president Lisa Bender and member Jeremiah Ellison tweeted last week that they plan to dismantle the police department.

[packs]

Originally Posted by Mark17

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/minneap...ce-department/

Minneapolis City Council members say they plan to vote to disband city's police department

June 9, 2020 / 8:10 AM / CBS News

On Sunday afternoon, hundreds of people rallied at a Minneapolis park to call for more changes to the city's police department. Nine out of 13 Minneapolis City Council members stood up on the stage to announce their intent to disband the city's police department, CBS Minnesota reports.

The announcement comes after council president Lisa Bender and member Jeremiah Ellison tweeted last week that they plan to dismantle the police department.

Yes, well you should do yourself a favor and read a corresponding article about the Camden police department. Again, disbanding a department does not mean eliminating a police force. It means replacing it.

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by packs

Yes, well you should do yourself a favor and read a corresponding article about the Camden police department. Again, disbanding a department does not mean eliminating a police force. It means replacing it.

I don't live in Camden, I live near Minneapolis. Maybe the English language has changed. I had thought "disband" meant "disband", and that "dismantle" meant "dismantle."

Maybe they'll replace it with a team of unarmed social workers or something, I don't know.

[packs]

Originally Posted by Mark17

I don't live in Camden, I live near Minneapolis. Maybe the English language has changed. I had thought "disband" meant "disband", and that "dismantle" meant "dismantle."

Maybe they'll replace it with a team of unarmed social workers or something, I don't know.

You could click some of the links that have been provided. They go into details about everything you have questions about.

Camden is a town in New Jersey that disbanded and replaced its police department. It is the standard for "defunding the police" and what the process looks like.

[Republicaninmass]

Arm chair liberals, got to love them.


Camden is now only the 10th most dangerous city In the US, from the 1st.


10% less population, and almost twice as many cops as 2012 when it was ranked #1

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Arm chair liberals, got to love them.


Camden is now only the 10th most dangerous city In the US, from the 1st.


10% less population, and almost twice as many cops as 2012 when it was ranked #1

i wonder how many male protestors are asking for fairness in the world yet dont pay child support and left their family broken.....

[packs]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Arm chair liberals, got to love them.


Camden is now only the 10th most dangerous city In the US, from the 1st.


10% less population, and almost twice as many cops as 2012 when it was ranked #1

You should read an article on the police department. If you did you would see that the city replaced it's police department in 2013, which is after 2012. If you look further you'll see they've reduced violence by 9 places in the time since they disbanded and replaced their police force.

[gawaintheknight]

Yes, I agree that that phrase would seem to promise something that the people using it aren't actually going to deliver. It's like "Make America Great Again" that way. But no one that anyone really takes seriously is proposing to get rid of police altogether.

Originally Posted by Mark17

I don't live in Camden, I live near Minneapolis. Maybe the English language has changed. I had thought "disband" meant "disband", and that "dismantle" meant "dismantle."

Maybe they'll replace it with a team of unarmed social workers or something, I don't know.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by gawaintheknight

Yes, I agree that that phrase would seem to promise something that the people using it aren't actually going to deliver. It's like "Make America Great Again" that way. But no one that anyone really takes seriously is proposing to get rid of police altogether.

those same people that attack 'make america great again' always make the point that words matter and if you say something mean it, dont explain it as something different. Even if actions dont match the words they make a big deal about the words

now those same people say 'defund the police' and have no issue on how its stated and dont understand any confusion on it because afterall they can explain what it means and actions mean more than what is said.

[packs]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

those same people that attack 'make america great again' always make the point that words matter and if you say something mean it, dont explain it as something different. Even if actions dont match the words they make a big deal about the words

now those same people say 'defund the police' and have no issue on how its stated and dont understand any confusion on it because afterall they can explain what it means and actions mean more than what is said.

English is a nuanced language. Defund means defund; but it doesn't mean eliminate police departments. In NYC defund relates to removing NYPD officers from working security at public schools, which is a revenue stream for the department. The city can opt to spend the money putting officers in the schools or the city can opt to spend its money elsewhere. That is the idea behind something like defund the police.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by packs

The point he's been making over and over again is that this isn't a call to disband the police. It's a call to defund them. He has given you ample links to look over if you're confused about the intentions.

right we know its to lesson funding for the most part ...but again, my point was you can take money from somewhere else .

body cams seem to work...would you want 30k a year officers working for your town or 60k a year ones...you pay for what you get...

body cams seemed like a good idea...it takes a lot of time and money to prosecute criminals.... cant just say defund the police without also addressing the court system...going to have to defund the court system..what about public defenders, we defund them too?

[gawaintheknight]

Actually it's not clear that body cams work:

https://news.yale.edu/2017/10/27/do-...or-not-so-much

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

right we know its to lesson funding for the most part ...but again, my point was you can take money from somewhere else .

body cams seem to work...would you want 30k a year officers working for your town or 60k a year ones...you pay for what you get...

body cams seemed like a good idea...it takes a lot of time and money to prosecute criminals.... cant just say defund the police without also addressing the court system...going to have to defund the court system..what about public defenders, we defund them too?

[packs]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

right we know its to lesson funding for the most part ...but again, my point was you can take money from somewhere else .

body cams seem to work...would you want 30k a year officers working for your town or 60k a year ones...you pay for what you get...

body cams seemed like a good idea...it takes a lot of time and money to prosecute criminals.... cant just say defund the police without also addressing the court system...going to have to defund the court system..what about public defenders, we defund them too?

Why do you keep bringing up reducing funding from other sources when the issue is police enforcement? How is it logical for a community to reduce funding from something like community development so they can combat lost trust with the police department?