1963 Topps checklist question

[Cliff Bowman]

All of this tells me one thing, either the 1963 Topps last series checklist has been wrong for decades and actually starts at #512 rather than #523, or cards #512 through #522 were included in both of the last two series and should be considered double prints.

[BillP]

I think it's been wrong for decades. to include a numerical sequence in the next series seems far fetched. how about the 6th series as a challenge? 447-511 how do they color base wise match up? and sp's..... there has to be more than beckett lists. card #496 is way up there in price every time. id say 502 as well.

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by BillP

I think it's been wrong for decades. to include a numerical sequence in the next series seems far fetched. how about the 6th series as a challenge? 447-511 how do they color base wise match up? and sp's..... there has to be more than beckett lists. card #496 is way up there in price every time. id say 502 as well.

I'm working on it now. I believe this will establish that there are no SP's in either series and that it's like you said, 447-511 and 512-576 are each series.

[Cliff Bowman]

For the 6th series 447-511 there are ten blue base with orange inset circle cards, Charlie Neal, Ken McBride, Ted Savage, Jerry Adair, Jim Landis, Jim Owens, Bob Taylor, Carroll Hardy, Ruben Amaro, Jake Wood, ten blue base with red inset circle cards, Lou Brock, Dave Wickersham, Frank Thomas, Daryl Spencer, Willie McCovey, Bill Monbouquette, Donn Clendenon, Chuck Estrada, Wally Post, Tex Clevenger, one blue base with a rookie trophy, Tom Tresh, and a blue base team card of the Indians. That works out to 22 cards which is perfect. The 63 Monbouquette is a blue base with a red inset circle, the 63 Wood is a blue base with an orange inset circle, the 63 Tresh is a blue base with a trophy rather than an inset circle.

[Cliff Bowman]

For the 1963 Topps 6th series 447-511 there are 9 red base with yellow inset circle cards, Phil Ortega, Gus Triandos, Harmon Killebrew, Walt Bond, Ed Brinkman, Paul Brown, Ken Aspromonte, Del Crandall, Jose Tartabull, 9 red base with green inset circle cards, Ken Retzer, Frank Funk, Dale Long, Joe Azcue, Jay Hook, Dick LeMay, Barney Schultz, Gene Green, John Roseboro, one red base team card of the Mets, one red base manager card of Al Lopez, and one red base multi payer rookie card with Steve Dalkowski. This is one card short so I will have to figure out what it is and come back to it. The Brinkman is a red base with a yellow inset circle, the Roseboro is a red base with a green inset circle, and the Mets team is a red base card. ETA: Thanks to Mike Lenart, the missing card is the red base variation of #431 6th series checklist, so that completes the 66 total cards and 22 each of blue, red, and yellow based cards.

[mikemb]

Could the missing Red card be #431, the 6th series checklist?

Mike

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by mikemb

Could the missing Red card be #431, the 6th series checklist?

Mike

Thank you, that was going to be the first thing I was going to look for, a red checklist.

[Cliff Bowman]

For the 1963 Topps 6th series 447-511 there are 9 yellow base with red inset circle cards, Joe Shaffernoth, Jack Fisher, Felix Torres, Roland Sheldon, Bob Johnson, Bennie Daniels, Phil Regan, Ray Sadecki, Norm Bass, 9 yellow base with blue inset circle cards, Jim Coker, Curt Flood, Felix Mantilla, JC Martin, Eddie Kasko, Art Fowler, Jack Kralick, Bob Friend, Paul Toth, one yellow base multi player rookie card with Bill Freehan, one yellow base manager card of Harry Craft, one yellow base team card of the Braves, and a yellow base 7th series checklist for a perfect total of 22 cards, which makes two horizontal rows of 11 cards. The Torres is a yellow base with a red inset circle, the Flood is a yellow base with a blue inset circle, the yellow base Freehan rookie card doesn't fit either pattern.