Pawn Stars--Jackie Robinson Card Collection

[Sean]

Originally Posted by chlankf

The set is listed on eBay. Too funny.

One of the cards on the show was a reprint. It's been replaced in the set that is now on eBay. The replacement is the only SGC card. The one on TV was ungraded and in mint condition. It also appeared to be autographed. It's strange that the Memory Lane guy didn't seem to notice.

[TPGS]

Originally Posted by Sean

One of the cards on the show was a reprint. It's been replaced in the set that is now on eBay. The replacement is the only SGC card. The one on TV was ungraded and in mint condition. It also appeared to be autographed. It's strange that the Memory Lane guy didn't seem to notice.

Dan didn't call it out because that card is NOT a reprint and I wouldn't pass it off that way. I know because I'm looking at it right now up close. While this is still a great card, it is ungraded and not in mint condition. It has a secretarial signature which is why wasn't authenticated or claimed to be signed even though it is original vintage.

I wanted to give more context to Robinson and the Bond Bread series, but the show didn't allow for that and cut a lot of historical reference footage that would have been more informative.

There are very few complete Bond Bread sets that exist in the hobby. I seriously doubt that Memory Lane sold one recently as Dan claimed for that amount which distorts the value. Given the continued appreciation for other Robinson rookie cards, this is what it is worth to me.

Jackie is timeless and frankly his transformative and successful example of mutual respect is the answer to the painful divisiveness we are witnessing in society today.

[phikappapsi]

Originally Posted by TPGS

Dan didn't call it out because that card is NOT a reprint and I wouldn't pass it off that way. I know because I'm looking at it right now up close. While this is still a great card, it is ungraded and not in mint condition. It has a secretarial signature which is why wasn't authenticated or claimed to be signed even though it is original vintage.

I wanted to give more context to Robinson and the Bond Bread series, but the show didn't allow for that and cut a lot of historical reference footage that would have been more informative.

There are very few complete Bond Bread sets that exist in the hobby. I seriously doubt that Memory Lane sold one recently as Dan claimed for that amount which distorts the value. Given the continued appreciation for other Robinson rookie cards, this is what it is worth to me.

Jackie is timeless and frankly his transformative and successful example of mutual respect is the answer to the painful divisiveness we are witnessing in society today.

No disrespect; but in that condition (between MK, Auth, and Poor pretty much across the board) just about anyone could put that set together in a year between REA/Heritage etc and Ebay, for roughly 22k. Really hard to ask a 100% premium when none of the cards in the set are a premium. just my $.02

Originally Posted by phikappapsi

No disrespect; but in that condition (between MK, Auth, and Poor pretty much across the board) just about anyone could put that set together in a year between REA/Heritage etc and Ebay, for roughly 22k. Really hard to ask a 100% premium when none of the cards in the set are a premium. just my $.02

The most valuable card in the set is the Portrait with Facsimile auto but I believe it was in PSA 1-1.5 which would make it a $1500-2K card on the high-end. The rest were also low grade copies (most with qualifiers) so on average I would guesstimate maybe $1200-1500 per card, again on the high-end. So 12 cards at $1500 and the facsimile auto comes out to $20k and then maybe add another $2-3k for variance and selling the collection as a group and $22k sounds about spot on. Of course the owner can “value” them at whatever he wants, that doesn’t have any bearing on actual market value

[swarmee]

Here's the video link
https://www.facebook.com/PawnStars/v...43591026968983

[CharleyBrown]

Originally Posted by TPGS

Dan didn't call it out because that card is NOT a reprint and I wouldn't pass it off that way. I know because I'm looking at it right now up close. While this is still a great card, it is ungraded and not in mint condition. It has a secretarial signature which is why wasn't authenticated or claimed to be signed even though it is original vintage.

I wanted to give more context to Robinson and the Bond Bread series, but the show didn't allow for that and cut a lot of historical reference footage that would have been more informative.

There are very few complete Bond Bread sets that exist in the hobby. I seriously doubt that Memory Lane sold one recently as Dan claimed for that amount which distorts the value. Given the continued appreciation for other Robinson rookie cards, this is what it is worth to me.

Jackie is timeless and frankly his transformative and successful example of mutual respect is the answer to the painful divisiveness we are witnessing in society today.

Hey Matt, I didn't get to see the show (no cable) but saw the facebook clip linked here. Really sick that you were able to get on the show and showcase the set. Wish they would have brought more of the history into it (its distribution etc) but I guess that wouldn't have made for great soundbytes and TV. I believe the last set auctioned off as a full set was our mutual friend's set with Goldin Auctions a few years ago. Soon after he sold the set, the market for the cards jumped strongly.

I know Heritage broke a set to sell each card individually. I don't believe ML sold a set... I did take some time off from cards, but I've done as much as I can to track sales.

FWIW, I don't remember the exact time frame it took for me to complete my set, but I believe it was between 4 and 5 years.

[sflayank]

No set was sold by serota
Please Do not post untruths
And do not post names

[DCDSports]

I don't watch the whole Pawn Star episodes, but one of my very best friends is (was) their book expert. Her name is Rebecca and she was an employee at Bauman Rare Books at their Vegas store. She ultimately moved back East to run the whole biz, and is now doing her own thing in DC.

Quite possibly the smartest person I have ever met. Genuinely nice and knows her stuff. They'd tell her the title of the book they have, and that was pretty much it.

I'll try to find her segments when I can. Otherwise, the show (and shows like that) didn't do much for me.

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by DCDSports

I don't watch the whole Pawn Star episodes, but one of my very best friends is (was) their book expert. Her name is Rebecca and she was an employee at Bauman Rare Books at their Vegas store. She ultimately moved back East to run the whole biz, and is now doing her own thing in DC.

Liked her segments as well. She was one of the experts who debunked the Shoeless Joe autograph mentioned in the "Time Pawn Stars lost money" article linked above.

[CharleyBrown]

Originally Posted by sflayank

No set was sold by serota
Please Do not post untruths
And do not post names

Larry, I was mistaken. My apologies. I removed the name. I thought the set on the PSA set registry that is now Robert Edward Auctions Spring 2018 was yours or your brother's. I couldn't remember off-hand though.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Huysmans

Hey Dale, I usually agree with your posts, but I think the exact opposite of what you're saying is the actual reality in this scenario.

First, can you give one example where Rick lies or misrepresents an item as something it isn't to get a better price? Even one example? I have never seen that on the show. Never.
I can show endless examples though where Rick pays more than the seller requested after the "expert" valued the item higher.

And using rhetoric like Rick being the "strong" and any random seller as the "weak" borders on comical, especially when I have never seen one episode where a person was selling because they were desperate for food or to pay a badly needed medical bill. The most common thing people say they will spend the money on if a deal is made, is going on a trip. These hardly sound like those qualifying as the "weak".

NO ONE can ever claim to be robbed or ripped off if they are offered a certain amount, and they WILLINGLY accept it. The only just argument anyone can counter with, would be if Rick lies and misrepresents an item, otherwise, it's on the seller.

Can you honestly say Dale that in this day and age of endless information available via the internet, that someone can make a legitimate claim and excuse of being completely and utterly ignorant on any topic??
If they are, that is on them and not others.... personal responsibility my friend.

I did not say that. I simply said it irks me when Rick offers a price that is ridiculously low compared to the true value of the item.

I understand fully what you are also saying, people need to educate themselves better, but at the same time, I think a little leeway/latitude should be exhibited with Rick at times when he must know some have no clue what they actually have nor the true value of it. I would assume some of these sellers don't even have a computer nor where to look if they did? Not everyone is the same.

I don't watch the show religiously by any stretch so I can't speak on much more than what I have personally seen but hopefully, like you said, there are times when he actually pays more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWuoP1Czrdo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GblbKjGhQL0