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Old 05-21-2020, 12:20 PM
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Todd Riley has most of the non-sport pages lumped into a single PDF on his site located at the URL below. Some of the T220 boxing and T219 sports are there but none of the baseball. The non-sports were largely intact, full pages, not like the baseball trimmed down so much. Hobby archaeology......

http://www.non-sport.com/ATC.pdf
Thanks for posting this Tom. They do mention baseball players in a couple of them.

The Old Mill page says "began packing Nat'l players same as those used
in Piedmonts Jan 8 1910" the Old Mill page also says "began packing one Nat'l
+ 1 So league pict" and "cabinet size ball players picture to each carton".

The Tolstoi page says "Advise we have discontinued packing Baseball pictures
in Tolstoi and substituted 1 Military and 1 pugilist pictures. started packing march
11 1911.

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The Lenox page also mentions Baseball and still has a baseball card attached.

It says "also began packing base ball pictures Oct 15 / 10 - 1 to E box of 10
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Wonderful information from ledgers throughout the years.

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The Lenox page also mentions Baseball and still has a baseball card attached.

It says "also began packing base ball pictures Oct 15 / 10 - 1 to E box of 10
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Looking at the Old Mill page again where it says cabinet size ball players
to each carton could these be H801-7,s.
It looks like it also says cabinet size
prizefighters and near the bottom it says to pack for all states except Ohio.
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Here are 2 of the original BB pages. Unfortunately other scans I had have been lost to time.
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I'm surprised this thread has received so few responses the pdf file Tom
posted of the ATC journal is incredible information on a large number of
sports and non sports tobacco cards.

The first two index pages list the different brands and most of the pages that they are
on in the journal.

A couple of interesting things I see about t206's that haven't been mentioned
is that 13 of the 15 t206 brands (not including Ty Cobb) are on the index page
but EPDG and Polar Bear are missing also a few of the T206 brands say began
packing for all states except Ohio on some of the ledger pages.

ATC Index Ledger page 1.jpg

ATC Index Ledger page 2.jpg


I think the most interesting thing I found is on the first Carolina Brights page
in the ledger.

John posted one of the Carolina Brights pages in the above post but unfortunately the packing and shipping info has been ripped off but on the earlier Carolina Brights page on the side it says "began packing ball pictures Piedmont back backs in Carolina Brights 12/8/09 or 12/18/09"(I cant tell which). And after that it says began packing 2 ball pictures with C.B. backs but it doesn't have a date.

ATC Carolina Brights Ledger page 1.jpg

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To me it seems to indicate that before they began printing the Carolina Brights backs on t206's they were inserting Piedmonts in the C.B. packs.
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That is a cool tidbit Pat about Carolina Brights packages probably containing Piedmont backs before they began inserting CB backs into CB packs. Just another possible reason, besides popularity of the Piedmont brand, that Piedmonts backs are so common...cross brand synergy!

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[QUOTE=Pat R;2011783]I'm surprised this thread has received so few responses the pdf file Tom
posted of the ATC journal is incredible information on a large number of
sports and non sports tobacco cards.

The first two index pages list the different brands and most of the pages that they are
on in the journal.

A couple of interesting things I see about t206's that haven't been mentioned
is that 13 of the 15 t206 brands (not including Ty Cobb) are on the index page
but EPDG and Polar Bear are missing also a few of the T206 brands say began
packing for all states except Ohio on some of the ledger pages.

Attachment 415453

Attachment 415454


It looks like it says Gales (EPD Gales) right under Hindu on that list, no?
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