National Rescheduled?

[Donscards]

Well I figured it was going to be cancelled, but I am glad there is a chance for December. I will be set up there and yes the crowd will be down and most likely some dealers will not set up, but I think it will still work and will be a great National.

[ejharrington]

I’m glad it is still happening. I live in CT so I can’t make the shows in the Midwest

[Fred]

Since it's Atlantic City, does anybody want to start taking odds on:

* IF the pandemic environment doesn't prevent it (3 -1)
* IF it's allowed, will the attendance be above or below 33% of normal (over/under)
* What percentage of people give the reason as NO-shows because of germ-phobia or because it's FLU season and people are just going to be hacking and weezing because it's just that time of year. (over/under 75%)
* IF it's cancelled due to weather (1-4)
* IF dealers sign-up for "pandemic stimulus" cash from the government (ok, no odds on this one because it should be about 0%).

I get it, most of the big dealers are on the east coast and hate traveling to the west side of the states but can't they at least make it closer to the west coast at least ONCE a decade? Oh yeah, did I mention southwest like LA, Orange County or San Diego. Yeah - now I'm gonna get crap from the people in SFO, SEA, PDX, DEN and PHX.

[Donscards]

Originally Posted by Fred

Since it's Atlantic City, does anybody want to start taking odds on:

* IF the pandemic environment doesn't prevent it (3 -1)
* IF it's allowed, will the attendance be above or below 33% of normal (over/under)
* What percentage of people give the reason as NO-shows because of germ-phobia or because it's FLU season and people are just going to be hacking and weezing because it's just that time of year. (over/under 75%)
* IF it's cancelled due to weather (1-4)
* IF dealers sign-up for "pandemic stimulus" cash from the government (ok, no odds on this one because it should be about 0%).

I get it, most of the big dealers are on the east coast and hate traveling to the west side of the states but can't they at least make it closer to the west coast at least ONCE a decade? Oh yeah, did I mention southwest like LA, Orange County or San Diego. Yeah - now I'm gonna get crap from the people in SFO, SEA, PDX, DEN and PHX.

Fred You forgot Boston---It would be Great there but will never happen.

[Fred]

Don,

The only Boston I could find in California is "Boston Ravine" in Grass Valley, California. I guess that doesn't fall in the category of "southern" California. However it is about 30 miles north-east of the Sacramento airport so at least it's got that going.

Oh you're from Portland Maine - does that mean we'll be putting you down for $5 that the Atlantic City national is cancelled due to weather?

Just curious - why would it never happen in Boston? Great place!

[oldjudge]

Zero chance I go. Hopefully, Chicago in 2021.

[Steve_NY]

From an exhibitor's standpoint, I applaud the NSCC Committee for postponing the show until December. They have given us HOPE in a tough time. They have also taken the decision away from the members who likely would have cancelled in droves and taken their one out of five decision.

Having set up at just about every large and small show in the eastern states, when I retired 3+ years ago from my full-time career, I have continued to set up every year at the National. I can't agree with some of you regarding the comparison between the Philly show and the National. Wake up: the Philly show has like 150 "tables" whereas the National has 550 "booths" (NOT counting the Corporate booths). Go online and check their layouts. If you are a serious collector still, you are doing yourself a disservice by just going to the Philly show. I would argue why not attend both? Yeah you will see 50-75 of the same dealers, but think of what you are really missing.

The facts remain the same: The Philly show, the Boston show, and even the White Plains show are pretty much NOT events like the National, they are just larger baseball card shows. I have cut out setting up at all of those shows -- mainly because I make more money on the set-up and first day of the National then I make all weekend on each of those shows. Why should I set up and see the same people at every one of those shows, every single time I set up. The national gets many of the regulars too, but there is an entirely different group beyond those regulars that attend a National. Often, seven out of ten people, I have never seen before, or have not seen them in years.

Although I would like to see some variety of locations for the National -- and I have already said that many times before. Being located on the east coast, I do prefer somewhere I can drive to in 15 hours or less, but I might consider some other locations that might take longer to get to rather than opt out of the show.

Yes, the National may still get cancelled this year, but for the time being, I have some HOPE that it will be held just at a later date.

Steve

P.S - From above, I also agree that early to mid-Dec. temperature has been quite good in recent years, and 40's/50's is just not cold.

In fact the high temperature in Atlantic City in December 2019 on those five days last year was: 39, 58, 60, 54 and 43. Not beach weather but definitely boardwalk weather.

[t206fanatic]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

Zero chance I go. Hopefully, Chicago in 2021.

unless there's a vaccine by December, will not be in attendance either