Hey, pennant guys

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

What did the cleaner do to the red paint? Anything?

Yeah, Marc, we need you to spray the whole thing with Retro-Clean and report back with results.

Seriously, the way it did not ruin the blue/gray felt makes me think it might be the perfect stuff for an old, red, heavily stained NY Giants pennant I own.

[bocca001]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

Yeah, Marc, we need you to spray the whole thing with Retro-Clean and report back with results.

Seriously, the way it did not ruin the blue/gray felt makes me think it might be the perfect stuff for an old, red, heavily stained NY Giants pennant I own.

If you use this stuff, you probably need to cover/avoid any paint (or at least test the paint for color fastness by rubbing a small area of the paint with a Q-tip soaked in the detergent). Like I said, it took off the offwhite paint coat from the Oilers helmet on contact (just one drip). I think that coat had mostly yellow in it. And, when I soaked the fabric close enough to get near the red, the red started to bleed.

This pennant seemed to be especially prone to bleeding paint. I dipped a Q-tip with water and rubbed it on the red and the red started to come off.

But, like I said, I was impressed with how well it got out the brown, foxing, rusty spots and how quickly it did it. I think I had the detergent mix on it for 5 minutes at most (I spooned it on to the felt areas to try to avoid paint). It also brightened up the blue fabric. The hard part is cleaning all of blue fabric that is between the graphics/letters.

[bocca001]

Once I set up an area to take pictures, I decided to take some pictures. So, here are:

SF Giants:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/3asA1U9ieVAa8fqYA

SF 49ers:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/EJMz8fH2goMc7afWA

Houston Oilers:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/ebrG4CcAG2xoCM54A

[ooo-ribay]

Great stuff, Marc! Interesting that the Niners basically used two colors, while the Giants are all over the color spectrum.

[thetahat]

Finished inventory of a few more teams, came across this ... didn’t we earlier discuss Cubs and Giants pennants with the same cookie-cutter ballpark graphic?

This has to be a knock-off company ... the graphics/style are similar to Trench of the time period ... and maybe copying the stadium graphic would be too close to copyright infringement. Who knows ...

[bocca001]

Here is the Giants with the same stadium. Kyle suggested that it may be Busch stadium.

[thetahat]

In addition to grouping pics by teams my eventual goal is to group by style/maker, with the help of Mr. Domer’s excellent research. Stadium pennants, scroll pennants, etc. I think even a collaboration could be in order? Book?

Anyway, here’s what I have in Keezer pennants. I suspect that I have a couple others .... eventually I’ll post them and see what y’all think. Keezers have a fairly distinct style (double stitched, mostly heavy felt but some cloth, thick tassels, one color print), many are stamped on the back but not all

https://photos.app.goo.gl/CWTmDnbHaHL2XPqDA

[Domer05]

Originally Posted by thetahat

Finished inventory of a few more teams, came across this ... didn’t we earlier discuss Cubs and Giants pennants with the same cookie-cutter ballpark graphic?

This has to be a knock-off company ... the graphics/style are similar to Trench of the time period ... and maybe copying the stadium graphic would be too close to copyright infringement. Who knows ...

Interesting theory. That makes sense, actually. Whether they were trying to avoid a lawsuit, or just being lazy, it's clear whoever made this series phoned in the artwork.

Frankly, how they could label that stadium as "Wrigley Field" of all places is a crime against humanity.

The text on this Mets pennant resembles the text layout that ASCO used in the 1970s. Is the spine exactly 1" wide on these, I wonder? If so, it likely is by ASCO ... in which case, nobody should be surprised that they phoned in a pennant design