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Old 05-09-2020, 10:17 AM
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Saturday to Wednesday. How many dealers will still be set up by end of day Monday let alone Wednesday. Plus it is also during Hanukkah which is from Dec 11-18. Should be interesting.
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Old 05-09-2020, 10:21 AM
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I would also add the Philly Show is the weekend before, Dec 4-6.
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My years of deluded wishful thinking have me hoping this will be the catalyst for a winter SoCal National. Less than 2 weeks before Xmas in the NE makes zero sense to me.
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My years of deluded wishful thinking have me hoping this will be the catalyst for a winter SoCal National. Less than 2 weeks before Xmas in the NE makes zero sense to me.
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Old 05-09-2020, 10:50 AM
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I would also add the Philly Show is the weekend before, Dec 4-6.
Oh right. With that being said I will more than likely skip the National this year and just attend the Philly show. Many of the same dealers I look for anyway, an hour less drive and cheaper admission.
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Old 05-09-2020, 11:43 AM
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Oh right. With that being said I will more than likely skip the National this year and just attend the Philly show. Many of the same dealers I look for anyway, an hour less drive and cheaper admission.
I predict that a lot of big "National" dealers will show up in the earlier and warmer Valley Forge PA autumn shows like never before , rather than a December Atlantic City longshot...it just makes good business sense this year...

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Old 05-09-2020, 11:51 AM
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I do some coordination and event planning. I have had four big events cancelled. You are have to just to take the dates the venues have to offer.
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Old 05-09-2020, 11:53 AM
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I predict that a lot of big "National" dealers will show up in the earlier and warmer Valley Forge PA autumn shows like never before , rather than a December Atlantic City longshot...it just makes good business sense this year...

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I doubt they would be able to squeeze in many more dealers into the room where the Philly Show is currently. My guess is they might be able to squeeze in another 10 tables but that would probably be pushing it.
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What they should do is make the Valley Forge show the National (use the same dates starting Dec 4), but move it to a large facility in Philadelphia such as the downtown Philadelphia Convention Center. Work out any union issues with that convention center in these circumstances. This might jumpstart that the National could be in Philadelphia in the summer in future years.
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Old 05-09-2020, 12:11 PM
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Yes, I know it is a cliche. I never had any plans to attend AC. They did the right thing. As we all know, it is about getting a vaccine and from what I have heard on the news, that won't be until early next year at the earliest. The race is on!
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There are several reason why a December national “could” flop. First, the regular flu season typically begins in November. This year, however, we could face a regular flu and returning Coronavirus season. Who will want to increase their expose just to purchase sports cards?

Secondly, attending the national typically requires missing work, and using vacation days. Most people, however, use vacation time around Christmas and the New Year. I don’t see individuals using all their vacation time in December between the national and holiday season. Although most immediate family members have recently spent quality time together, I doubt people will chose to use their vacation time for the national over family holiday time.

Third, the nation is two weeks before Christmas. I doubt people will want to spend the money. Attending the national requires airfare, hotel, food, and entry fees. Plus, the card budget. I doubt people will want to incur all these expenses during the same time they normally spend a lot on regular Christmas gifts.

Fourth, a lot of people have lost their jobs or fear they may lose their jobs. The national is a luxury that people may forgo. Although it is an experience, the cards are typically overpriced.

Fifth, it is during Hanukkah which will reduce some attendees. Sixth, who really wants to travel to Atlantic City in December.

I’m probably in the minority and will catch heck here, but just cancel the national already. Just have a 2021 blowout national.
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I predict that a lot of big "National" dealers will show up in the earlier and warmer Valley Forge PA autumn shows like never before , rather than a December Atlantic City longshot...it just makes good business sense this year...

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Except there's a waiting list to get into Philly.
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Dec.12-Dec.16 is a Satuday-thru Wednesday show. Could be interesting?
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Guess they dont realize, come Labor Day, Atlantic City pretty much shuts down. Not to mention weather events, climate, etc


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I would also add the Philly Show is the weekend before, Dec 4-6.
I think that would be a bad move for the NSCC - I really want the A/C show because its in my backyard, but given the circumstances and options I think they should just cancel it.
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