Goldin auction 33 Lajoie psa 9! What does it go for?

[Kingcobb]

Is it just me how does that grade a 9?









Daryl Fraley

[oldjudge]

Is it just me, or do the colors look a little faded?

[Republicaninmass]

Looks pretty sharp to me

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by Kingcobb

Is it just me how does that grade a 9?

Really old grade before they downgraded centering as much as they do now. It's what, 70/30 Left to right, at best? Might qualify as a straight 8. PSA doesn't really downgrade for toning.

Didn't most of these get paper-clipped to letters and sent in the mail to kids that complained? Quite possible it was also steamed to remove the paper clip indent if it had one.

Also, previous Goldin sale of exact same card:
11/5/2016 $228,000.00 9 11 Goldin Auctions Inaugural Great American Trading Card Auction- Closing October 1 Auction 02002301

[where the gold at?]

will they try and sell that over graded card? this is like the 4th time in 10yrs......not a fan of secret hidden reserves

[GasHouseGang]

It's always fun to look at the history of what these cards have sold for. The first photo with front and back is the card offered by Goldin Auction. Then going backward in time with PSA9 examples sold by Heritage, the first sold in January 2019 for $264K, then November 2017 for $144K, and finally February 2017 for $204K. These price variations make it hard to guess what the final hammer price will be on this example.

[ALBB]

yes,, Ive ran into that Heritage " hidden reserve" in the past

[japhi]

That is a brutal PSA 9. No idea what it will sell for but it has mid grade eye appeal.

[Huysmans]

Originally Posted by swarmee

Really old grade before they downgraded centering as much as they do now. It's what, 70/30 Left to right, at best? Might qualify as a straight 8. PSA doesn't really downgrade for toning.

Didn't most of these get paper-clipped to letters and sent in the mail to kids that complained? Quite possible it was also steamed to remove the paper clip indent if it had one.

Also, previous Goldin sale of exact same card:
11/5/2016 $228,000.00 9 11 Goldin Auctions Inaugural Great American Trading Card Auction- Closing October 1 Auction 02002301

There's 91 graded 1933 Goudey Nap Lajoie cards in the PSA population report (not sure how many, if any, graded by SGC or Beckett) including 6 qualified examples, with over 30% of those graded earning NM 7 honours or better.

NM 7 - 13 cards
NM-MT 8 - 7 cards
NM-MT+ 8.5 - 1 card
MINT 9 - 9 cards

I could be wrong, but if memory serves, Jefferson Burdick received an envelope during the era the cards were released directly from Goudey with at least 10 Lajoies, and he dispersed most to prominent collectors at the time, including Lionel Carter. This would account for a number of the high grade examples in the hobby.
..... again, I could be remembering this wrong.

[oldjudge]

Compared to those other examples the card sure looks faded to me.

[ejharrington]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

Compared to those other examples the card sure looks faded to me.

PSA doesn’t always downgrade for fading. Just look at some high gradeOld Judge cards as examples.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by ejharrington

PSA doesn’t always downgrade for fading. Just look at some high gradeOld Judge cards as examples.

+1

[Republicaninmass]

Looks like Goldin posted better scans. Those heritage scans look amazingly bright. I havent seen any psa 9s in person for comparison.

Nobody wagers a guess? I'll say 250k with bP

[benjulmag]

Originally Posted by ejharrington

PSA doesn’t always downgrade for fading. Just look at some high gradeOld Judge cards as examples.

How PSA decides whether a characteristic enhances, detracts from or has no impact upon a card's grade is entirely subjective. And that to me is the prime idiocy of TPG having any role other than opining whether a card is authentic and unaltered. Without exaggeration, for some issues I would rather have a 1 than a 10.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by Huysmans

There's 91 graded 1933 Goudey Nap Lajoie cards in the PSA population report (not sure how many, if any, graded by SGC or Beckett) including 6 qualified examples, with over 30% of those graded earning NM 7 honours or better.

NM 7 - 13 cards
NM-MT 8 - 7 cards
NM-MT+ 8.5 - 1 card
MINT 9 - 9 cards

I could be wrong, but if memory serves, Jefferson Burdick received an envelope during the era the cards were released directly from Goudey with at least 10 Lajoies, and he dispersed most to prominent collectors at the time, including Lionel Carter. This would account for a number of the high grade examples in the hobby.
..... again, I could be remembering this wrong.

It makes me wonder how many of those should rightfully be graded "Authentic". That is a ridiculous percentage for a 1933 issue, no matter how they were dispersed.