Which card will sell for more

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by RCMcKenzie

I voted for Trout, not because I prefer the card, but I remember the news story about someone called, "Vegas Dave" who paid $400,000.00 for a Trout "Superfractor", whatever that is..

It's believed that Vegas Dave consigned this red card numbered out of 5 as well. The Superfractor is the 1/1 version with the champagne colored swirls in the background. Vegas Dave is also a heavy pumper like Gary V with his own groupies who invest in whatever he tells them to. He's also regularly been accused of bidding on his own cards.

[Fred]

I think it's nuts to think that Trout is going to continue on at the pace he's done in the past. I hope he puts up some really neat numbers in his career but sooner or later time will catch up to him and he'll have a few average seasons towards the end of his career, just like Kid Griffey, Pujols, etc. Then people will be on to the next Mike Trout and that Trout card will be yesterday's news.

Look at Pujols first 10 seasons and tell me he was a slouch. I'm going to guess that you can get Pujols most expensive rookie card for a lot less than that Trout card.

I'm sure the card companies are having a ball coming up with the next "marketing" lottery ticket (because that's how I perceive that Trout card and others like it) because it keeps them in business.

If I had that Trout card, I'd get as much as I could for it and then I'd be buying all kinds of vintage with it.

Now, for the guys that like that new shiny stuff, have at it and enjoy what you collect.

Out with the New and In with the Old. Cobb is the best value and not a flash in the pan like Trout Nothing like a Pan Fried Trout when the Values go South

[BeanTown]

Cobb in the Clubhouse at 300k. Now we have to wait 3 weeks and see how Trout does.

[bswhiten]

Trout. No contest.

[edjs]

So, what does a 1/1 for a player that didn’t become a star go for? Or even another 5/5? What is the average Joe’s bump on these serial numbered cards?

[chriskim]

Keeping cash and buy TSLA. LOL

[rhettyeakley]

Originally Posted by edjs

So, what does a 1/1 for a player that didn’t become a star go for? Or even another 5/5? What is the average Joe’s bump on these serial numbered cards?

They literally go for about $10-20, maybe a little more if they have the Major League team shown and a team collector wants it.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...lete=1&_sop=15

[55koufax]

Vegas Dave, there is little chance Cobb is the winner. This clowno will pay anything for high end, ultra rare Trout cards. Go to you tube and put his name in and see.

Vegas Dave and Holly Sonders were an item til recently too. Good to see she is not as brainless as previous actions indicated.

I am rooting for The Trouter Man to tank the rest of his career (not really) just to see this Vegas Dave lose millions for trying to openly monopolize the Trout market.

[sayheykid54]

Without question I would personally want the Cobb. It's not even close. ANY modern card selling for $500K is simply insane.

[Rhotchkiss]

$300k was highway robbery IMO. Someone got a great deal. I definitely take the Trout, although admittedly, I have no idea why that Trout card is worth anything significant

[Bored5000]

Originally Posted by rgpete

Out with the New and In with the Old. Cobb is the best value and not a flash in the pan like Trout Nothing like a Pan Fried Trout when the Values go South

I don't say this to diminish Cobb in any way, but come on. Trout is not a "flash in the pan." He is the best player of his generation.

In eight full seasons, he has finished top two in MVP voting seven times. He has led the A.L. in offensive WAR seven times in eight years. The only season he wasn't in the top two in MVP voting and failed to lead the league in offensive WAR, he missed a third of the season due to injury.

Be it 1910 or 2020, those are otherworldly stats.

[Tyruscobb]

Originally Posted by Bored5000

I don't say this to diminish Cobb in any way, but come on. Trout is not a "flash in the pan." He is the best player of his generation.

In eight full seasons, he has finished top two in MVP voting seven times. He has led the A.L. in offensive WAR seven times in eight years. The only season he wasn't in the top two in MVP voting and failed to lead the league in offensive WAR, he missed a third of the season due to injury.

Be it 1910 or 2020, those are otherworldly stats.

Trout’s numbers are even with Puljos’ first 8 years. Would you pay big money for a Puljos card at this point? Exactly. His numbers have the ability to drop just like Puljos.

The Cobb value is set in stone. The Trout card’s downside is greater than the card’s upside. An all-time great v. a player who still has the ability to sustain multiple injuries and risking hundreds of thousands? It’s not even close. Hindsight is 20/20, but Cobb is the correct investment here. Buying that Trout is not really investing but more of like a casino play. It’s gambling.

[Bored5000]

Originally Posted by Tyruscobb

Trout’s numbers are even with Puljos’ first 8 years. Would you pay big money for a Puljos card at this point? Exactly. His numbers have the ability to drop just like Puljos.

The Cobb value is set in stone. The Trout card’s downside is greater than the card’s upside. An all-time great v. a player who still has the ability to sustain multiple injuries and risking hundreds of thousands? It’s not even close. Hindsight is 20/20, but Cobb is the correct investment here. Buying that Trout is not really investing but more of like a casino play. It’s gambling.

I would rather have the Cobb card in a heartbeat. I was mostly objecting to the characterization of a guy with seven top-two MVP finishes in eight years as a "flash in the pan." Even though I would rather have the Cobb card, I recognize that Trout is the best player of his generation.

When I first saw your user name, I was worried you might not be objective on the topic.

[Topnotchsy]

Originally Posted by Tyruscobb

Trout’s numbers are even with Puljos’ first 8 years. Would you pay big money for a Puljos card at this point? Exactly. His numbers have the ability to drop just like Puljos.

The Cobb value is set in stone. The Trout card’s downside is greater than the card’s upside. An all-time great v. a player who still has the ability to sustain multiple injuries and risking hundreds of thousands? It’s not even close. Hindsight is 20/20, but Cobb is the correct investment here. Buying that Trout is not really investing but more of like a casino play. It’s gambling.

Pujols is an all-time great and one of the 25 best players in baseball history, but I don't think he was as good as Trout to this point in his career, was never a 5-tool player, was never as marketable, and represents close to the worst-case scenario for Trout going forward.

Not saying the price on the Trout should be more than Cobb or anything like that, but his all-around performance and marketability is unlike anything we have seen probably since Mantle.

[darwinbulldog]

If they both retire today, I'd say Trout has had about the 30th best career in MLB history (including 8 pitchers) and Pujols about the 40th best. More to the point, Trout has done more in his first 8 seasons than Pujols had done in his astonishingly strong first 10 seasons. Statistically he's at least the best player since Barry Bonds and arguably the best since Ruth.

Pointing out that Trout won't keep up the same pace is not insightful. It's just a straw man since neither did Cobb or Ruth.

[rats60]

Originally Posted by Topnotchsy

Pujols is an all-time great and one of the 25 best players in baseball history, but I don't think he was as good as Trout to this point in his career, was never a 5-tool player, was never as marketable, and represents close to the worst-case scenario for Trout going forward.

Not saying the price on the Trout should be more than Cobb or anything like that, but his all-around performance and marketability is unlike anything we have seen probably since Mantle.

Trout was never a 5 tool player either. He is average defensively and has an average arm. He even played quite a bit of left field earlier in his career, not where you would stick a good fielder with a strong arm. Albert Pujols and Frank Thomas were significantly better offensively than Trout at his peak, that makes up for Trout's speed and base running. At one time Thomas and Pujols were hot and cooled off when their performance dropped. Unless Trout can play at a high level through his 30s like Cobb, Ruth, Clemente, Mays, Aaron, Williams, etc. he will too.

If Trout is at or passing his peak, then this card is also and has little upside. The Cobb will continue to rise and some think it actually sold low, even at 300k.