NSCC Update

[carlsonjok]

Originally Posted by Rich Klein

This is from the Politico Newsletter this morning. Politico is reasonably well centered in how they report about Washington (they try to keep down the middle as much as possible)

- STAT: That's why David was talking about stuff moving overnight. I have no dog in this fight but he follows the market a lot closer than I do and this could be an important development.

Rich

Rich, the STAT article is the same one I linked to, and quoted above. The details buried well down in the article aren't nearly as sexy as the lede would suggest. I am generally a live and let live kinda guy. So, I am not going to tell anyone what to do. But, given that we are dealing with a health issue, I am going to put more weight on the opinion of my doctor than that of my stockbroker.

[Dpeck100]

The stock broker isn’t telling anyone what to do. The stock broker was highlighting potentially very positive news for all of us.

I am very hopeful as a human they have success with these trials. Everyone should be.

[Exhibitman]

The NSCC board is consulting with top experts on the issue:

[Flintboy]

Don’t really have a dog in this message board fight but diseases like this bring what’s important to the front. I’m deemed essential and I go home everyday praying I didn’t get it and that I don’t spread it to my family. Many topics end up on this page that honestly probably don’t fit the criteria for being here. Does it really need to escalate to the point of name calling and expletives? Dpeck, have no issue with what you did and I for one enjoy your posts.

Everyone please stay safe and healthy!

[Tyruscobb]

From my understanding, dealers are permitted to cancel and will receive a full refund. If I’m a dealer, this is a no brainer. Why would I incur all the expenses (travel, hotel, food, dealer fees) to set up at a significantly less populated national and risk obtaining the virus (through travel or at the convention)? The economic repercussions are only in the first inning. I don’t see the volume at the national this year. The lower volume does not justify the dealer fees which are based on an anticipated high volume. I predict a lot of dealers will cancel. I suspect a lot of expected attendees have already canceled. Not happening this year.

[robertsmithnocure]

Comic-Con was cancelled. It has been going on for 50 years. It is usually at the end of July in San Diego.

[Dpeck100]

Originally Posted by Flintboy

Don’t really have a dog in this message board fight but diseases like this bring what’s important to the front. I’m deemed essential and I go home everyday praying I didn’t get it and that I don’t spread it to my family. Many topics end up on this page that honestly probably don’t fit the criteria for being here. Does it really need to escalate to the point of name calling and expletives? Dpeck, have no issue with what you did and I for one enjoy your posts.

Everyone please stay safe and healthy!

Thank you.

I have posted plenty of comments over the years where I expected heat and got it because I think for myself and post what I believe and don't follow the heard.

Under no circumstances in my wildest dreams did I think my comment would be viewed as out of line or controversial hence the response.

[samosa4u]

Originally Posted by Dpeck100

Thank you.

I have posted plenty of comments over the years where I expected heat and got it because I think for myself and post what I believe and don't follow the heard.

Under no circumstances in my wildest dreams did I think my comment would be viewed as out of line or controversial hence the response.

Sometimes this can happen on the forum:

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

The NSCC board is consulting with top experts on the issue:

[ibuysportsephemera]

I canceled my hotel reservation for the National today. I also canceled my hotel reservation for the Brimfield May show week.

Jeff

[yanks12025]

Originally Posted by ibuysportsephemera

I canceled my hotel reservation for the National today. I also canceled my hotel reservation for the Brimfield May show week.

Jeff

Brimfield was cancelled 2 weeks ago

[Republicaninmass]

Hotel I tried yesterday isnt taking any reservations yet.


Still 3 months away

[ibuysportsephemera]

Originally Posted by yanks12025

Brimfield was cancelled 2 weeks ago

I hadn't heard that...thanks Brock.


Jeff

[Leon]

LOL is that a NSCC board member or their expert?

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

The NSCC board is consulting with top experts on the issue:

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by Leon

LOL is that a NSCC board member or their expert?

Is there a difference???

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Is there a difference???

Not in my eyes. Idiocy at it's best. We didn't know how good it was until Mike B was gone. It's too bad. He always did such a great job and now it's a total cluster, imo, and many others opinions too.

I will still go to most of them if they aren't in AC because they are still the best and biggest show out there. I sure wish there was a different National where we could just blow them off.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

When you can't even get them to return multiple attempts at contacting them to get on their dealer waiting list you know they need some kind of competition. They act like they're the only game in town, because at that level, they are. I'd love to see one of the big promoters go head to head with them.

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

The NSCC board is consulting with top experts on the issue:

Thanks Adam - I always loved that clip!


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[prewarsports]

I have never heard one collector tell me they are excited to spend a ton of money, take a week off of work and fly out to the National so they can see the stuff the auction houses have on display in their 5000 square foot carpeted booths with couches and free pens, taking up half the show floor.

The biggest problem with the National is it used to be a HUGE show without really any limits on exhibitor space and very few corporate entities. It would take you a full day just to walk the floor in a hurry. Now, it is extremely limited and most of the booths are corporate. You can now see the whole show, without even being quick, stopping at every actual dealer table with inventory for sale in one day easy. It went from 1000-2000 dealers to now MAYBE 300-400 dealers once you eliminate the auction houses. It has shifted from a show designed for the collector to one centered around the corporate entity which has killed it for most people. It is insane that they can sell out dealer space within an hour a year in advance and teall dealers "sorry we are full". If there are hundreds of dealers wanting to do the show and can't, which there are, make the show bigger. I know it is not a venue issue because the same shows used to be twice the size in the same venues (Rosemont and Cleveland).

If they would go back to a collector centered event and not limit dealer space to make it "elite" and try to be like comic-con, it would have a huge following like it used to. It is sad to see something so loved by so many people basically become a corporate "look what we have coming up for you" event. It can easily be fixed, but their entire focus has shifted.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by prewarsports

I have never heard one collector tell me they are excited to spend a ton of money, take a week off of work and fly out to the National so they can see the stuff the auction houses have on display in their 5000 square foot carpeted booths with couches and free pens, taking up half the show floor.

The biggest problem with the National is it used to be a HUGE show without really any limits on exhibitor space and very few corporate entities. It would take you a full day just to walk the floor in a hurry. Now, it is extremely limited and most of the booths are corporate. You can now see the whole show, without even being quick, stopping at every actual dealer table with inventory for sale in one day easy. It went from 1000-2000 dealers to now MAYBE 300-400 dealers once you eliminate the auction houses. It has shifted from a show designed for the collector to one centered around the corporate entity which has killed it for most people. It is insane that they can sell out dealer space within an hour a year in advance and teall dealers "sorry we are full". If there are hundreds of dealers wanting to do the show and can't, which there are, make the show bigger. I know it is not a venue issue because the same shows used to be twice the size in the same venues (Rosemont and Cleveland).

If they would go back to a collector centered event and not limit dealer space to make it "elite" and try to be like comic-con, it would have a huge following like it used to. It is sad to see something so loved by so many people basically become a corporate "look what we have coming up for you" event. It can easily be fixed, but their entire focus has shifted.

Awesome post.... absolutely on-point, and completely agree. It's so sad that they "sell out", thereby excluding actual Collector-friendly Booths. As usual, the "Mom & Pops" get screwed (along with west coast collectors).

This current crop won't change it back or make the necessary adjustments, so I suppose we just need to hope another management group will take the plunge.

[Orioles1954]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Awesome post.... absolutely on-point, and completely agree. It's so sad that they "sell out", thereby excluding actual Collector-friendly Booths. As usual, the "Mom & Pops" get screwed (along with west coast collectors).

This current crop won't change it back or make the necessary adjustments, so I suppose we just need to hope another management group will take the plunge.

The last national I went to as a collector I spent a whopping $15. There's far more for me at the local shows than the natty.

[Rich Klein]

Originally Posted by prewarsports

I have never heard one collector tell me they are excited to spend a ton of money, take a week off of work and fly out to the National so they can see the stuff the auction houses have on display in their 5000 square foot carpeted booths with couches and free pens, taking up half the show floor.

The biggest problem with the National is it used to be a HUGE show without really any limits on exhibitor space and very few corporate entities. It would take you a full day just to walk the floor in a hurry. Now, it is extremely limited and most of the booths are corporate. You can now see the whole show, without even being quick, stopping at every actual dealer table with inventory for sale in one day easy. It went from 1000-2000 dealers to now MAYBE 300-400 dealers once you eliminate the auction houses. It has shifted from a show designed for the collector to one centered around the corporate entity which has killed it for most people. It is insane that they can sell out dealer space within an hour a year in advance and teall dealers "sorry we are full". If there are hundreds of dealers wanting to do the show and can't, which there are, make the show bigger. I know it is not a venue issue because the same shows used to be twice the size in the same venues (Rosemont and Cleveland).

If they would go back to a collector centered event and not limit dealer space to make it "elite" and try to be like comic-con, it would have a huge following like it used to. It is sad to see something so loved by so many people basically become a corporate "look what we have coming up for you" event. It can easily be fixed, but their entire focus has shifted.

Granted, I'm probably looking for different items and at a much lower price point than you are but I've had no trouble out spending my goals each year. Last year I actually made it to Sunday before doing that but there are some years I've been at the cash machine the second day of the show.

Regards
Rich

[the-illini]

Simply put the focus of the show is to be a corporate event rather than a place for collectors and dealers to buy and sell merchandise.