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Old 04-17-2020, 10:43 AM
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Default The biggest issue here is lack of timely communication

I think most would understand a glitch or problem and the need for an auction house to address it. Not clearly and rapidly communicating with your clientele about it is really poor business practice. I think the idea of rolling bids back to what they were at 10PM is a good one albeit a little too little a little too late. Sorry to all those affected by this - I placed a single bid and let it go at that - so wasn't affected personally, but I feel your pain and frustration.
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Old 04-17-2020, 11:49 AM
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I think most would understand a glitch or problem and the need for an auction house to address it. Not clearly and rapidly communicating with your clientele about it is really poor business practice. I think the idea of rolling bids back to what they were at 10PM is a good one albeit a little too little a little too late. Sorry to all those affected by this - I placed a single bid and let it go at that - so wasn't affected personally, but I feel your pain and frustration.
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Old 04-17-2020, 12:09 PM
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I think most would understand a glitch or problem and the need for an auction house to address it. Not clearly and rapidly communicating with your clientele about it is really poor business practice.
I agree with this, it's tough to look at such a high-end auction house such as Heritage and see they have literally no one answering phones or emails at such a critical time. Both of these things can easily be done remotely and in fact should be during the pandemic.

We will likely never know what really happened-technical glitch, hacking, etc.-but we can ask the question as to why no one from Heritage was working from home in a support capacity at the close of one of its auctions. I am reserving judgement, but this hobby has been rocked by fraud so many times it's easy to see why some go there first. The fact that some of these cards are so rare they may never be sold again only compounds the agony of those who got screwed by the timing.
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Old 04-17-2020, 12:33 PM
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It's really "interesting" how Mr. Calderon comes onto this forum regularly to hype and promote Heritage's upcoming auctions and events. But when you really need a clarification or explanation, he is nowhere to be found.

Very poor customer service, by not returning to this thread for purposes of clarification, or to address their valued customers' concerns.

Same thing happened when Heritage was repeatedly asked about the trimmed/altered Lou Gehrig and Bobby Hull Cards which ran their full courses at auction. Nothing but silence after the initial hype. Hopefully (at a minimum) they reported the consignor to the FBI, but we will never know the truth about what really happened or what parties were behind it.
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Isn't silence the typical damage-control method used by large organizations, with the expectation/realization that customer furor will soon die down and then pretty much disappear?
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Possibly Val, but I can think of instances where companies, even huge ones, stepped up and took their lumps, and followed up with meaningful change. That always impressed me.
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Old 04-17-2020, 05:12 PM
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Isn't silence the typical damage-control method used by large organizations, with the expectation/realization that customer furor will soon die down and then pretty much disappear?
All too often, I suppose it is.

PSA is of this same mindset, and it has worked well for them (so far, anyway...)
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I haven't communicated with Heritage but there is always a chance the sole consignor had a say in what to do.
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I spoke to 3 representatives from HA including Chris Ivey. None of them knew what the technical issue was. I framed that it had to be known so it could be resolved. It would give confidence to the bidders if we knew what the glitch was. No one had any idea about it.

I also asked if they would issue a statement that their employees would not bid during this extra day. They were clear that they would not do that either even though the extra day gives thier employees an extra advantage.

It did not give me confidence as they don’t know much and not addressing the issue. I’ve been consigning cards lately...they were on my list, not anymore.

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I haven't communicated with Heritage but there is always a chance the sole consignor had a say in what to do.
I definitely thought about this, it wasn't a consignors (plural) problem on this one, just one guy.

Doesn't change the poor management of whatever it is that happened.

I realize mistakes get made, and I'm sure I'll be back bidding next time. But at least in this instance, I didn't like what happened so I ceased bidding - and it worked, I was able to keep all my money.
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