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Old 04-16-2020, 07:52 PM
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As I understand it, this is a potential TREATMENT for sick people. If they are very sick in the hospital. Correct me if I’m wrong. Are you going to go to the National because someone says to you “hey, if you do get really sick and have to be hospitalized for a few weeks, there is now a good drug to treat you”. Uh, not me. I’ll avoid getting to altogether. Thanks. AIDS and Ebola have great treatment drugs. I don’t want them either.
The only way to get back to normalcy is a treatment.

This drug is curing people who are in really bad shape. Not the minor cases.

No one wants to get this thing but the only way the economy recovers is if there is a way to not lose lives due to this outbreak and this gives people confidence to go out in public.

There are countless pharmaceutical companies working day and night trying to get us to the other side of this issue.

Plenty of people on this board make their living from trading cards and they need public interaction to return and disposable income to exist to maximize their business opportunity. There is a reason the stock market is cheering and the futures are exploding higher.

Here don't believe me.

One of the top market analysts for years.

“An effective treatment is a huge deal and would create a path to open the economy and resume normal ‘social activities’ way sooner than a vaccine,” said Tom Lee, head of research at Fundstrat Global Advisors. “A treatment is safer and more scalable because it is only given to people who need to be treated.”

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Old 04-16-2020, 08:02 PM
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The only way to get back to normalcy is a treatment.

This drug is curing people who are in really bad shape. Not the minor cases.

No one wants to get this thing but the only way the economy recovers is if there is a way to not lose lives due to this outbreak and this gives people confidence to go out in public.

There are countless pharmaceutical companies working day and night trying to get us to the other side of this issue.

Plenty of people on this board make their living from trading cards and they need public interaction to return and disposable income to exist to maximize their business opportunity. There is a reason the stock market is cheering and the futures are exploding higher.

Here don't believe me.

One of the top market analysts for years.

“An effective treatment is a huge deal and would create a path to open the economy and resume normal ‘social activities’ way sooner than a vaccine,” said Tom Lee, head of research at Fundstrat Global Advisors. “A treatment is safer and more scalable because it is only given to people who need to be treated.”
Thanks for the update and stock tip.

Will not speak for others but I live this threat every day. I am very motivated to stay up to date. I do not need some jerkoff telling me directly or indirectly how to respond to an off topic response, especially a hostile one, that is taking away from a hobby and diversion I truly need to stay sane.

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Old 04-16-2020, 08:30 PM
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Thanks for the update and stock tip.

Will not speak for others but I live this threat every day. I am very motivated to stay up to date. I do not need some jerkoff telling me directly or indirectly how to respond to an off topic response, especially a hostile one, that is taking away from a hobby and diversion I truly need to stay sane.

Go away.

Haha

You guys are something else.

I will sleep better tonight knowing the medical world is hard at work at trying to keep me safe and make it possible for me to get back to a normal life.

I honestly can't stop laughing at these responses. Your sacred board. LOL
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Relaxing the restrictions early is a bad idea.

https://marginalrevolution.com/margi...1918-1919.html
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Maybe this whole thread should self-quarantine.
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The only way to get back to normalcy is a treatment.

This drug is curing people who are in really bad shape. Not the minor cases.

No one wants to get this thing but the only way the economy recovers is if there is a way to not lose lives due to this outbreak and this gives people confidence to go out in public.

There are countless pharmaceutical companies working day and night trying to get us to the other side of this issue.

Plenty of people on this board make their living from trading cards and they need public interaction to return and disposable income to exist to maximize their business opportunity. There is a reason the stock market is cheering and the futures are exploding higher.

Here don't believe me.

One of the top market analysts for years.

“An effective treatment is a huge deal and would create a path to open the economy and resume normal ‘social activities’ way sooner than a vaccine,” said Tom Lee, head of research at Fundstrat Global Advisors. “A treatment is safer and more scalable because it is only given to people who need to be treated.”
What are the side effects? Is it really curing people or are they recovering on their own? Does it cause more good or harm in the long run? We have science and doctors that will determine if this is really the one or if it is something else being developed by someone else. It also isn't something that we will know in a few weeks or even months. I have cancelled plans to go to AC even if the show is a go. I will let science tell me when I can return to normal not any posts on a message board. Until then I will follow the CDC guidelines.
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Old 04-17-2020, 09:37 AM
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The only way to get back to normalcy is a treatment.

This drug is curing people who are in really bad shape. Not the minor cases.
The way to get back to normalcy is to eliminate the possibility of a continuing or recurring pandemic. A treatment for people already gravely ill doesn't achieve that because it does nothing to lessen the number of cases. The only thing that achieves that end is to build herd immunity and the only ways to do that is either vaccinations or everyone getting the disease and not dying from it.

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One of the top market analysts for years.

“An effective treatment is a huge deal and would create a path to open the economy and resume normal ‘social activities’ way sooner than a vaccine,” said Tom Lee, head of research at Fundstrat Global Advisors. “A treatment is safer and more scalable because it is only given to people who need to be treated.”
Well, if I want to understand matters of disease and public health, the first person I would talk to is a guy who wants to sell me stock in the pharmaceutical company.

In all seriousness, one of my virologist friends does think that remdesivir does show good potential, but is cautious in pumping it up as some miracle cure until the results from a number of clinical trials is available. And the Gilead results are very preliminary. I found a good article about the trial results that seems to take on the proper tone. Hopeful, but clear in that there is still a long way to go. And, for anyone familiar with the design of experiments, there is some language in there that will temper your enthusiasm. For example:
Mullane, while encouraged by the University of Chicago data, made clear her own hesitancy about drawing too many conclusions.

“It’s always hard,” she said, because the severe trial doesn’t include a placebo group for comparison.
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I think most people will not listen to what these show promoters are saying. They are not going to attend any shows this year, period! When thousands of people around you are getting sick and dying, are you seriously going to take that risk - over sports cards?

This year is EFFED! See you all in 2021!
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This is from the Politico Newsletter this morning. Politico is reasonably well centered in how they report about Washington (they try to keep down the middle as much as possible)

- STAT: "Early peek at data on Gilead coronavirus drug suggests patients are responding to treatment," by Adam Feurstein and Matthew Herper: "A Chicago hospital treating severe Covid-19 patients with Gilead Sciences' antiviral medicine remdesivir in a closely watched clinical trial is seeing rapid recoveries in fever and respiratory symptoms, with nearly all patients discharged in less than a week, STAT has learned.

"Remdesivir was one of the first medicines identified as having the potential to impact SARS-CoV-2, the novel coronavirus that causes Covid-19, in lab tests. The entire world has been waiting for results from Gilead's clinical trials, and positive results would likely lead to fast approvals by the Food and Drug Administration and other regulatory agencies. If safe and effective, it could become the first approved treatment against the disease.

"The University of Chicago Medicine recruited 125 people with Covid-19 into Gilead's two Phase 3 clinical trials. Of those people, 113 had severe disease. All the patients have been treated with daily infusions of remdesivir

That's why David was talking about stuff moving overnight. I have no dog in this fight but he follows the market a lot closer than I do and this could be an important development.

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This is from the Politico Newsletter this morning. Politico is reasonably well centered in how they report about Washington (they try to keep down the middle as much as possible)

- STAT: That's why David was talking about stuff moving overnight. I have no dog in this fight but he follows the market a lot closer than I do and this could be an important development.

Rich
Rich, the STAT article is the same one I linked to, and quoted above. The details buried well down in the article aren't nearly as sexy as the lede would suggest. I am generally a live and let live kinda guy. So, I am not going to tell anyone what to do. But, given that we are dealing with a health issue, I am going to put more weight on the opinion of my doctor than that of my stockbroker.
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The stock broker isn’t telling anyone what to do. The stock broker was highlighting potentially very positive news for all of us.

I am very hopeful as a human they have success with these trials. Everyone should be.
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