Hypothetical Old Judge cards

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Omaha

Omaha players are hard to find, so I guess it doesn't surprise me that there could be quite a few more out there.
Hypotheticals:
Ed Gastfield is available as a Cabinet, as is Frank Selee, the manager.
John Campana was released on April 10, so maybe too soon to be on a card.
Ed Cassian was with Omaha until July 2 without ever appearing in a regular season game. He pitched in spring training. But he's not on the cabinet list, so not sure why he doesn't seem to have had a card.
Len Sowders, brother of John Sowders (St. Paul) and Bill Sowders (Boston). Not sure when he signed with Omaha, but he was gone by early June.
Sanders is listed on the Cabinet checklist, but I think this is an error. I wonder if they meant Sowders?



Player 1-Mar Card # Old Judge Club Cabinet Notes First Game Last Game
Bill Annis X 10 Omaha X April 30, 1888
Bill Burdick X 52 Omaha X May 1, 1888
Jim Burns X 56 Omaha X April 30, 1888
Dad Clarke 77 Omaha X Signed May 22 from Chicago NL May 24, 1888
Jimmy Cooney X 93 Omaha X May 10, 1888
John Doran X 131 Omaha X April 30, 1888 June 17, 1888
John Flynn X 164.5 Omaha X April 30, 1888
John Healy 219 Omaha X Pitched for Omaha on April 19; released June 7 May 20, 1888 June 2, 1888
Tom Lovett X 280 Omaha X April 30, 1888
Jack Messitt X 322 Omaha X May 10, 1888 May 10, 1888
Joe Miller X 324 Omaha X April 30, 1888
Tom Nagle 339 Omaha (1889) Signed June 7 June 7, 1888
Pat O'Connell X 353 Omaha X April 30, 1888
Dan Shannon 411 Omaha X Signed March 25 April 30, 1888
James Walsh X 477 Omaha Sold to Minneapolis May 1
Tug Wilson X 504.5 Omaha X April 30, 1888
Ed Gastfield X Signed April 28 May 5, 1888 May 30, 1888
Frank Selee X X Manager
John Campana X Released April 10
Edward Cassian X Released July 2
Len Sowders X May 1, 1888 May 26, 1888

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St. Paul

Hypotheticals:
Tom Morrisey and Frank Ringo were both listed in the Cabinet checklist.
Joe Quest was released early in April.
Peter Vogel was released later in April.
John Corbett was released even later in April.
It really makes me wonder what the cut-off date was to be included or not in the cards that were printed.

Player 1-Mar Card # Old Judge Club Cabinet Notes First Game Last Game
Varney Anderson X 7 St. Paul X May 4, 1888
John Barnes X 20 St. Paul X Manager
Scrappy Carroll X 68 St. Paul X April 28, 1888
Jesse Duryea X 140 St. Paul X May 20, 1888
Billy Earle X 142 St. Paul X April 28, 1888
Rudy Kemmler X 258 St. Paul X May 4, 1888
Larry Murphy X 333 St. Paul X April 28, 1888
John Pickett X 369 St. Paul X April 28, 1888
Charlie Reilly X 382 St. Paul X April 28, 1888
Taylor Shafer X 410 St. Paul X April 28, 1888
John Sowders X 432 St. Paul X April 28, 1888
William Tuckerman X 466 St. Paul X May 6, 1888
Peek-A-Boo Veach X 472.5 St. Paul X April 28, 1888
Tom Morrissey X St. Paul X April 28, 1888
Frank Ringo St. Paul X Signed May 8 May 15, 1888
Joe L. Quest X Released April 9
Peter J. Vogel X Released April 19
John Corbett X Released April 24

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So there you go. If you are still hanging in, congrats! You made it!

I would say my list of most likely possible cards isn't that much different than the players presented in the Old Judge Book. For new players, I would keep an eye out for Moriarty, Ingraham (Dugrahm), Struck, Hart, Gastfield, Selee, Morrisey and Ringo.

Then there are Campana, Cassian and Sowders from Omaha, who are likely (IMO), just based on how hard it is to find players from Omaha and how long they were with the club in Spring Training and beyond (well beyond for Cassian).

Cushman and Wells most likely exist with Des Moines. Broughton is probably out there with Minneapolis and Hoover with Chicago. Given that Sprague has new poses with the Maroons, and Coughlin was clearly photographed well after ST, it seems likely to me that Hoover could have a new pose with the Maroons, like they did a second shoot. How else do you have cards for both players released on May 16 and also a player signed on May 26?

So that's what I have to show for being stuck at home for a while. Thanks for listening!

[oldjudge]

I think your work is great. I have a scarce cabinet of the 1888 Milwaukee team. It is pictured in the bio section of the Old Judge book, but if you can’t find it I can post an image.

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Originally Posted by oldjudge

I think your work is great. I have a scarce cabinet of the 1888 Milwaukee team. It is pictured in the bio section of the Old Judge book, but if you can’t find it I can post an image.

Do you know if the team photo was taken around the same time as the photos for the Old Judge set? (Is there any way to even know that?) Just looking at the timelines for a lot of the photos in the set (based on known dates of signings and departures), for Milwaukee I don't see why Ferson doesn't show up in the set. I will take a look at the photo tomorrow.

[kkkkandp]

Incredibly in-depth research! Thanks for sharing!