1966 Topps Series Release Dates ... Approx?

[cesarcap]

This is off topic slightly but I found it hard to put the 66's together versus the 67's. Financially yeah, 67's are PAINFUL. But there are fewer collectors chasing this set it seems to me, and perhaps fewer dealers, net54 and ebay listings? But for me, it also SEEMS like as soon as I do finish a set, everyone lists the set I just completed.

[Chicosbailbonds]

I would think they would come out around March 1 and each series would be 4 weeks. The 6th series would come out around August and the 7th Series Labor Day. There is only so much retail space with the football cards coming out also, so they may have made just enough to stock a store once and the football cards would replace them, thus “holding” the spot, not to lose it to other candy,

[toppcat]

Hopefully the formatting holds and this makes sense-here is a matrix of the Topps Series Vs. Checklists you may find interesting:

SERIES/ PRESS RUN/ LIST SAYS/ DIFF. / LIST NO.
1958
1 1 - 110 1-88 22 N/A
2 111 - 198 89-176 22 N/A
3 199 - 286 177-264 22 N/A
4 287 - 374 265-352 22 N/A
5 375 - 440 352-440 0 N/A
6 441 - 495 441-495 0 N/A

1959
1 1 - 110 1-88 22 N/A
2 111 - 198 89-176 22 N/A
3 199 - 286 177-264 22 N/A
4 287 - 374 265-352 22 N/A
5 375 - 440 353-429 11 N/A
6 441 - 506 430-495 11 N/A
7 507 - 572 496-572 0 N/A

1960
1 1 - 110 1-88 22 N/A
2 111 - 198 89-176 22 N/A
3 199 - 286 177-264 22 N/A
4 287 - 374 265-352 22 N/A
5 375 - 440 353-429 11 N/A
6 441 - 506 430-495 11 N/A
7 507 - 572 496-572 0 N/A

1961
1 1 - 109 1-88 21 17
2 110 196 89-176 20 98
3 197 283 177-264 19 189
4 284 370 265-352 18 273
5 371 446 353-429 17 361
6 447 522 430-506 16 437
7 523 589 507-587 0 516

1962
1 1 - 109 1-88 21 22
2 110 - 196 89-176 20 98
3 197 - 283 177-264 19 192
4 284 - 370 265-352 18 277
5 371 - 446 353-429 17 367
6 447 - 522 430-506 16 441
7 523 - 598 507-598 0 516

1963
1 1 - 109 1-88 21 79
2 110 - 196 89-176 20 102
3 197 - 283 177-264 19 191
4 284 - 370 265-352 18 274
5 371 - 446 353-429 17 362
6 447 - 522 430-506 16 431
7 523 - 576 507-576 0 509

1964
1 1 - 109 1-88 21 76
2 110 - 196 89-176 20 102
3 197 - 283 177-264 19 188
4 284 - 370 265-352 18 274
5 371 - 446 353-429 17 362
6 447 - 522 430-506 16 438
7 523 - 587 507-587 0 517

1965
1 1 - 109 1-88 21 79
2 110 - 196 89-176 20 104
3 197 - 283 177-264 19 189
4 284 - 370 265-352 18 273
5 371 - 446 353-429 17 361
6 447 - 522 430-506 16 443
7 523 - 598 507-598 0 508

1966
1 1 - 109 1-88 21 34
2 110 - 196 89-176 20 101
3 197 - 283 177-264 19 183
4 284 - 370 265-352 18 279
5 371 - 446 353-429 17 363
6 447 - 522 430-506 16 444
7 523 - 598 507-598 0 517


1967
1 1 109 1-109 0 62
2 110 196 110-196 0 103
3 197 283 197-283 0 191
4 284 370 284-370 0 278
5 371 457 371-457 0 361
6 458 533 458-533 0 454
7 534 609 534-609 0 531

1968
1 1 109 1-109 0 67
2 110 196 110-196 0 107
3 197 283 197-283 0 192
4 284 370 284-370 0 278
5 371 457 371-457 0 356
6 458 533 458-533 0 454
7 534 598 534-598 0 518

1969
1 1 109 1-109 0 57
2 110 218 110-218 0 107
3 219 327 219-327 0 214
4 328 425 328-425 0 314
5 426 512 426-512 0 412
6 513 588 513-588 0 504
7 589 664 589-664 0 582


1970
1 1 132 1-132 0 9
2 133 263 133-263 0 128
3 264 372 264-372 0 244
4 373 459 373-459 0 343
5 460 546 460-546 0 432
6 547 633 547-633 0 542
7 634 720 634-720 0 588

1971
1 1 132 1-132 0 54
2 133 263 133-263 0 123
3 264 393 264-393 0 206
4 394 523 394-523 0 369
5 524 643 524-643 0 499
6 644 752 644-752 0 619



1972
1 1 132 1-132 0 4
2 133 263 133-263 0 103
3 264 394 264-394 0 251
4 395 525 393-525 0 378
5 526 656 526-656 0 478
6 657 787 657-787 0 604

[ALBB]

not quite understanding that ?

Please just break it down using one line..lets say 66T 7 series..523-598...what are the other numbers on that line ?? Is that the # of the checklist card ?

[Blackie]

Great reading!! Thank you. Working on this set... anyone have cards to trade etc... lmk

[obcbeatle]

SNIP
1966
1 1 - 109 1-88 21 34
2 110 - 196 89-176 20 101
3 197 - 283 177-264 19 183
4 284 - 370 265-352 18 279
5 371 - 446 353-429 17 363
6 447 - 522 430-506 16 444
7 523 - 598 507-598 0 517
SNIP

I'll go out on a limb here :-)

1966
Series 1 was cards 1 - 109, Checklist said 1-88, that's a difference of 21 cards, I have no clue what 34 means :-) March/April release?
2 110 - 196 89-176 20 101 April/May release?
3 197 - 283 177-264 19 183 May/June release?
4 284 - 370 265-352 18 279 June/July release?
5 371 - 446 353-429 17 363 July/August release?
6 447 - 522 430-506 16 444 August/Sept. release?
7 523 - 598 507-598 0 517 Sept. release?

I'm obviously grasping at straws here :-) Seems like one of the Summer series releases would have been a TON of cards for that series as I always seemed to get a bunch of dupes in the Summer :-) For example, in 1968 I had a lot of dupes for a specific series, even of stars and hofers in that series. But probably more likely I just bought more cards in that series, hence I had fewer dupes in other series. Which kind of relates to my original question of trying to determine when I might have bought cards for each series (like a monthly timeline), then scan the cards I pulled and figure out when that year I pulled them. Again, I probably have way too much time on my hands right now :-)

[mikemb]

[QUOTE=obcbeatle;1970155]SNIP
1966
1 1 - 109 1-88 21 34
2 110 - 196 89-176 20 101
3 197 - 283 177-264 19 183
4 284 - 370 265-352 18 279
5 371 - 446 353-429 17 363
6 447 - 522 430-506 16 444
7 523 - 598 507-598 0 517
SNIP

I'll go out on a limb here :-)

1966
Series 1 was cards 1 - 109, Checklist said 1-88, that's a difference of 21 cards, I have no clue what 34 means :-) /QUOTE]

The 34 is the number of the 1st series checklist.

Mike

[bb66]

Originally Posted by Chicosbailbonds

I would think they would come out around March 1 and each series would be 4 weeks. The 6th series would come out around August and the 7th Series Labor Day. There is only so much retail space with the football cards coming out also, so they may have made just enough to stock a store once and the football cards would replace them, thus “holding” the spot, not to lose it to other candy,

It sure seems likely you are right on the timing . I'm glad to see this info on each year and series. I sure appreciate all the good info and thoughts.

[toppcat]

Originally Posted by Chicosbailbonds

I would think they would come out around March 1 and each series would be 4 weeks. The 6th series would come out around August and the 7th Series Labor Day. There is only so much retail space with the football cards coming out also, so they may have made just enough to stock a store once and the football cards would replace them, thus “holding” the spot, not to lose it to other candy,

Sounds about right-when there were high numbers, I think the target was right around Labor Day. I do recall being able to buy baseball and football at the same time when school started each year. FB cards were the big thing at that time of year where BB was big in the spring at school.

[obcbeatle]

Originally Posted by cesarcap

This is off topic slightly but I found it hard to put the 66's together versus the 67's. Financially yeah, 67's are PAINFUL. But there are fewer collectors chasing this set it seems to me, and perhaps fewer dealers, net54 and ebay listings? But for me, it also SEEMS like as soon as I do finish a set, everyone lists the set I just completed.

I feel your pain. 66 has taken me just as long as 67. Both are still unfinished and I started them both the year they were released. They are both painful. But both of those sets represent my childhood and the beginning of my baseball card collecting habit. Many of the the player photo's in those two sets are still ingrained in my memory and I can still see myself sitting on the floor of my house in SF (over 50 years ago!) sorting through those cards inside a "Keds" shoe box :-) I'm still trying to hang on to those memories!

[toppcat]

My third point could also just mean they advanced each series by (usually) 22 cards as a preview of the next series. I don't have enough sheet scans to check this properly. I'm amending my item 2 above to avoid further confusion. Like I said, these are theories until proven out.

Here's a second series 1958 half sheet (with the extra Bunning that replaced Bouchee as a bonus) and it looks like 88 subjects with 44 DP's. If this is the "A" sheet for the series then the "B" sheet would run the opposite (the DP from the first sheet are SP on the other, and vice-versa). So if you did 110 cards in the first series press run and your checklist goes to 88, you are 22 cards ahead of the game for series 2.

It would be great if we could get sheet scans going in this thread. A lot of us are quarantined, right? Plenty of time to comb your scans! You need 132 card half sheets to assess.