Calling all team collectors

[ValKehl]

George, you have just confirmed what I have suspected for some time - you and I are most likely seeking many of the same pre-War cards of Washington Senators players. I collect (1) as many cards as I can of all the players on the 1924 WS Championship Team, with special emphasis on Sam Rice & WaJo cards, and (2) type cards, with my type examples being Senators, where feasible.

BTW, one important career Washington player, who didn't make the HOF, but was well on his way before WWII ruined his career, is Cecil Travis.

To add some pics to this post, here are cards of some of the much-lesser-known players on the 1924 Senators team:

[GeoPoto]

Originally Posted by ValKehl

George, you have just confirmed what I have suspected for some time - you and I are most likely seeking many of the same pre-War cards of Washington Senators players.

Your cards are amazing. At least it is only the two of us.

Here's a few you showed and a couple you didn't.

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[ValKehl]

Originally Posted by GeoPoto

Your cards are amazing. At least it is only the two of us.

Here's a few you showed and a couple you didn't.

George, thanks for the kind words. Your cards aren't too shabby either! I especially like your Holland Creameries cards. One of my greatest hobby regrets was not pulling the trigger about 20 years ago when I had the opportunity to purchase the Holland short-print card of Peckinpaugh, because I thought the asking price was too high. Back then, it was the only example of this card known to exist, and it may still be.

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by ValKehl

George, you have just confirmed what I have suspected for some time - you and I are most likely seeking many of the same pre-War cards of Washington Senators players. I collect (1) as many cards as I can of all the players on the 1924 WS Championship Team, with special emphasis on Sam Rice & WaJo cards, and (2) type cards, with my type examples being Senators, where feasible.

BTW, one important career Washington player, who didn't make the HOF, but was well on his way before WWII ruined his career, is Cecil Travis.

To add some pics to this post, here are cards of some of the much-lesser-known players on the 1924 Senators team:

One of the amazing things about the '24 Nats is how incredibly weak the bench was, and even in some of the starting positions and pitching. An amazing number of cup-of-coffee guys were picked up and tried out during the season in an attempt to fill the centerfield and third base jobs, shore up the relief pitching, and provide reliable bench help. Finally, Earl McNeely--who had never played in the majors--and Ossie Bluege solidified those spots in time for the pennant run and world series, but this area of severe weakness came to the fore in the series when Peckinpaugh went down with an injury in game six and Ralph Miller and Tommy Taylor, with almost no big league experience between them, had to fill in at third in the legendary 7th game. Question for you, Val: what 1924 players have you been unable to find cards for, or I should say aren't known have a card?

[ValKehl]

Originally Posted by Hankphenom

... Question for you, Val: what 1924 players have you been unable to find cards for, or I should say aren't known have a card?

Hank, as best as I have been able to determine, no contemporaneous cards were issued for the following players (with the number of games in which each appeared for the 1924 Senators in parenthesis):
- Carl East (2 games).
- George "Showboat" Fisher (15 games).
- Harold "Chick" Gagnon (4 games).
- Bert "Buck" Griffith (Matt Williams' grandfather) (6 games).
- Carr Smith (5 games).
- Tommy Taylor (26 games).

And, not that you asked, I believe only one contemporaneous card was issued for each of the following players:
- Wade Lefler (5 games) - 1921 Baltimore Orioles White's Tip Top Bread (don't have).
- Walter "Slim" McGrew (6 games) - 1924 Diaz Cigarettes (see below).
- Ralph Miller (9 games) - 1925 Holland Creameries (see below).
- Ernest "Mule" Shirley (30 games) - 1925 Holland Creameries (see below).

This has been very much a challenging and fun collecting endeavor.

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by ValKehl

Hank, as best as I have been able to determine, no contemporaneous cards were issued for the following players (with the number of games in which each appeared for the 1924 Senators in parenthesis):
- Carl East (2 games).
- George "Showboat" Fisher (15 games).
- Harold "Chick" Gagnon (4 games).
- Bert "Buck" Griffith (Matt Williams' grandfather) (6 games).
- Carr Smith (5 games).
- Tommy Taylor (26 games).

And, not that you asked, I believe only one contemporaneous card was issued for each of the following players:
- Wade Lefler (5 games) - 1921 Baltimore Orioles White's Tip Top Bread (don't have).
- Walter "Slim" McGrew (6 games) - 1924 Diaz Cigarettes (see below).
- Ralph Miller (9 games) - 1925 Holland Creameries (see below).
- Ernest "Mule" Shirley (30 games) - 1925 Holland Creameries (see below).

This has been very much a challenging and fun collecting endeavor.

Thanks, Val. Amazing that all these guys played on a team that would go on to win the world series! Lefler's is an incredible story: basically, he won them the pennant during his cup of coffee, then didn't make the world series squad, in spite of his record with them of 5 for 8 with 4 key RBIs. How could they not take him to the series as a pinch-hitter? One of many strange stories from that season. I knew his niece, by the way, a beautiful girl.