Anybody around the country seeing sports shows being cancelled because of Corona

[Goudey77]

I told my son that Woody has Coronavirus. He's very upset about this.

Originally Posted by Bram99

Tom Hanks has Coronavirus.

That's all I got to say about that.

[seanofjapan]

Me: (Opens saloon doors to view thread)

Commenters in the thread: "You dipshit!" "Bullshit!" "Shut up with your crap!" followed by general brawl, everyone throwing bottles at each other, one guy getting thrown over bar countertop, smashing into mirror on the wall.

Me: (Gently and carefully closes doors on thread, turns around and walks away at brisk pace).

[insidethewrapper]

Was anything cancelled in 2009 ?????

H1N1(swine flu) was first detected in April 2009 in a 10-year-old girl in California. It was declared a global pandemic in June 2009 by the World Health Organization (WHO) and was finally over in August 2010.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimates that swine flu infected nearly 61 million people in the United States and caused 12,469 deaths. Worldwide, up to 575,400 people died from pandemic swine flu.

[irv]

Originally Posted by insidethewrapper

Was anything cancelled in 2009 ?????

H1N1(swine flu) was first detected in April 2009 in a 10-year-old girl in California. It was declared a global pandemic in June 2009 by the World Health Organization (WHO) and was finally over in August 2010.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimates that swine flu infected nearly 61 million people in the United States and caused 12,469 deaths. Worldwide, up to 575,400 people died from pandemic swine flu.

H1N1 affected the young and the healthy. Covid-19 affects the old and unhealthy but with way less of a mortality rate.

Media coverage/panic back then compared with today,,,,,,, huge difference.

[bigfish]

Originally Posted by irv

H1N1 affected the young and the healthy. Covid-19 affects the old and unhealthy but with way less of a mortality rate.

Media coverage/panic back then compared with today,,,,,,, huge difference.

These people are simply running out of road. Things will pass. A vaccine will be created. The market will bounce back. Card collecting will be great again.

This is not political.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by conor912

I’m pretty sure this isn’t how it works.

Originally Posted by bigfish

These people are simply running out of road. Things will pass. A vaccine will be created. The market will bounce back. Card collecting will be great again.

This is not political.

Make
Collecting
Great
Again

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by irv

H1N1 affected the young and the healthy. Covid-19 affects the old and unhealthy but with way less of a mortality rate.

Media coverage/panic back then compared with today,,,,,,, huge difference.

When the Spanish Flu arrived the first thing people noticed was that it seemed to spare children and young people. Then the virus muted and killed many millions of children and young people. Shit happens.

This is a new disease we don't have a vaccine for.

Why is it so hard from some people to just heed a warning and listen to what people who know far more about it than you ever will are saying.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Because we live in a world where for some reason people with no expertise think their opinions are just as valid as facts.

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Because we live in a world where for some reason people with no expertise think their opinions are just as valid as facts.

Yep. That would be the reason. Be suspicious of informed intelligent folks. Believe hucksters and uninformed loudmouths.

[trambo]

Columbus sportscard show cancelled for this weekend, too! Looks like for the next few weeks or so many shows will be cancelled!

[docpatlv]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Because we live in a world where for some reason people with no expertise think their opinions are just as valid as facts.

You don’t say...

[Tyruscobb]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

When the Spanish Flu arrived the first thing people noticed was that it seemed to spare children and young people. Then the virus muted and killed many millions of children and young people. Shit happens.

This is a new disease we don't have a vaccine for.

Why is it so hard from some people to just heed a warning and listen to what people who know far more about it than you ever will are saying.

People are preparing and thinking like this is going to be equivalent to a three day blizzard. They are mistaken. This is the equivalent to a long winter. We are speaking months; not days or weeks. Educate yourself and Godspeed my friends.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

When the Spanish Flu arrived the first thing people noticed was that it seemed to spare children and young people. Then the virus muted and killed many millions of children and young people. Shit happens.

This is a new disease we don't have a vaccine for.

Why is it so hard from some people to just heed a warning and listen to what people who know far more about it than you ever will are saying.

Who says I'm not listening to people who know? Most, like I mentioned, get their facts from the media, which is causing this panic. Many doctor's believe this is much ado about nothing but you don't hear or see them on the news do you?
How come that is so hard for you to understand??

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...ng_people.html
https://cnsnews.com/article/internat...s-61000-deaths

I also know a couple nurses. Here is one's response to a question I asked her what they have done in preparation for this.


All we have done at work as of today is put a few posters up asking generic questions like "have you traveled to an area known to have the virus". That is it.

Every year we do the same prep for this type of illness and its second nature. N95 mask fitting, education on isolation for airborne and droplet precautions etc....

Do I believe the media is blowing it WAY out of proportion? YES

I have seen many different types of virus's, respiratory illness, bacterial illness's and their effects on the body.
I've seen what true influenza can do.
The chance of influenza itself killing you is extremely very low if you are healthy.
BUT if you have pre-existing conditions and you get influenza (and lots of people think the stomach bug is influenza) the morbidity rate just go up up and up.
I'm not 100% sold on the "flu shot" either. I personally haven't got it in 4-5 years. I also don't push it on people at work or out of work.

And some more info:

While at least 60 cases of Covid-19 have been confirmed in the US, no one has died of it here, while this year's influenza has infected at least 29 million in the US and killed about 16,000 so far.
Covid-19 is spreading easily and sustainably in the Hubei province and other parts of China, and has been confirmed in more than two dozen other countries. While the global death toll has so far topped 2,700, it's good to remember that more than 80% of the Covid-19 cases have been mild, requiring little to no medical intervention, and it is much less deadly than severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) and Middle East respiratory syndrome (MERS), which are also coronaviruses.
Here is the best advice I can give you, to avoid any virus and flu: Be intentionally hygienic in public and during interactions with others. Hand hygiene is a cornerstone of infection prevention. Effective hand hygiene requires appropriate duration and thoroughness, which should be a goal each time our hands are cleaned.


Did you not read any of those articles I posted? People in Wuhan China are returning to work and school because the cases are subsiding along with the deaths.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51813876
http://voyapal.com/wp-content/upload...oronaVirus.pdf

Does this really sound like it's something we should all be panicked over?

Nearly 70,000 people have recovered from coronavirus
Amid concerns over the coronavirus outbreak in the U.S., it’s important to remember most who become infected recover from the illness.

https://thehill.com/changing-america...recovered-from

If you don't believe this panic is media driven, then I don't know what to tell you? If you want to keep living in fear, be my guest, but I'm going to carry on like I've always done and enjoy life instead of getting caught up in this fear mongering B.S.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/dr-dre...-the-contagion
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toron...ears-1.5490534
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saska...ewan-1.5488688
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...379-2/fulltext

[KMayUSA6060]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

When the Spanish Flu arrived the first thing people noticed was that it seemed to spare children and young people. Then the virus muted and killed many millions of children and young people. Shit happens.

This is a new disease we don't have a vaccine for.

Why is it so hard from some people to just heed a warning and listen to what people who know far more about it than you ever will are saying.

My biggest pet peeve with this whole thing, which discredits the warnings, is the inconsistencies with the response. For Ohio...

School is ok to attend tomorrow, but not for the next 3 weeks starting Monday/Tuesday. Meanwhile, with parents still at work, kids are going to be congregating with babysitters in large groups, or hanging out at the mall with friends from their school district and other school districts. Seems counterproductive.

Crowds of 100+ are not ok, but airports, grocery stores, office buildings, etc., remain functional. Not to mention 100+ in Ohio isn't ok but you can have up to 500 people together in NYC, 250 people in both Seattle and San Francisco, and so on.

Sporting events are not ok, even when no fans are in attendance, but regular civilians need to still go to work.

We want solutions, but places like the Cleveland Clinic have to wait for approval from the CDC (government), which delays those solutions.

Why are there inconsistencies? Is this not as bad as the media is making it out to be? Is it as serious as it's being made out to be and our decision makers just suck? There is such a thing as overreaction, and I don't believe it to be wrong to question what's going on. Standard precautions (washing hands, not going out when sick, etc.) and common sense prevail 9 times out of 10, minimum.

[irv]

It just makes me shake my head!!


https://www.facebook.com/ParmaraClan...6649515152352/

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/stat...68674%3Fs%3D21

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc-T7cGVVnA

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/06/busin...per/index.html

https://vancouversun.com/news/local-...angley-costco/

[conor912]

Originally Posted by KMayUSA6060

? Is it as serious as it's being made out to be and our decision makers just suck?.

Mostly, it’s this. This thing caught the entire world by surprise and no one was prepared. On top of that, The US dragged their feet in responding and is now behind the ball, scrambling and basically making up solutions as we go. The measures seem drastic, because they are, but it’s better to do too much at this point than risk not doing enough.

The inconsistencies come from no one entity taking the reigns. Some of this is based on political posturing in an election year, some is due to denial and some is due to being caught with our pants down and slow to react. Now with no one agency at the helm, states are taking it upon themselves to do what they think is best and 50 governors are going to have 50 different ideas of what that is.

[seanofjapan]

Originally Posted by conor912

Mostly, it’s this. This thing caught the entire world by surprise and no one was prepared. On top of that, The US dragged their feet in responding and is now behind the ball, scrambling and basically making up solutions as we go. The measures seem drastic, because they are, but it’s better to do too much at this point than risk not doing enough.

The inconsistencies come from no one entity taking the reigns. Some of this is based on political posturing in an election year, some is due to denial and some is due to being caught with our pants down and slow to react. Now with no one agency at the helm, states are taking it upon themselves to do what they think is best and 50 governors are going to have 50 different ideas of what that is.

I think I agree with this.

The markets around the world have tanked this week and the reason is that they expect the situation in the US to become way worse than it has in China, which is quite scary actually.

The reason is basically they don't see any effective response being formulated by the US government right now and its too late at this point to do much about that.

In China the response was kind of bungled from the start in a similar way - the leadership just tried to ignore and deny it for a while. But then they changed literally overnight from doing nothing to suddenly taking aggressive measures to contain it. And those seem to have worked, it looks like China will peak with fewer than 100,000 cases and about 4,000 deaths, which while tragic is way better than it could have been.

What has markets freaking out is that the outbreak in the US is already way past the point it was in China when it made that pivot. They only had a few hundred cases at that point and it was contained to a single region when the Central government started taking it seriously and imposing strict measures. In the US now it has already spread to almost all 50 states, and there are thousands of cases, maybe 10s of thousands given what little we know thanks to a lack of testing, and its spreading at an exponential rate.

And despite this, there still isn't really any plan for getting it under control being articulated by the Federal government. The opportunity to limit the damage to what China incurred has already been squandered and the markets recognize this. They seem to be pricing in an epidemic with numbers in the millions in the US and commensurate economic fallout.

I would not be buying stocks right now, nobody knows where the floor for this is.

[marzoumanian]

Greetings. I live in Chicago and was planning to go to the Fanatics show today out at Rosemont (by the airport).
I've been checking the website often, saw all the autograph cancellations and couldn't understand why they didn't already cancel for public safety reasons.
I just checked out the website a few minutes ago and now see that the entire weekend show HAS BEEN CANCELLED.
What did it take for Fanatics to cancel? The governor's banning of any gathering of more than 1000 people. In my opinion show operators should of acted much more quickly. So, thank you governor. Public safety should always rule.
Take care.

[cardsagain74]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

When the Spanish Flu arrived the first thing people noticed was that it seemed to spare children and young people. Then the virus muted and killed many millions of children and young people. Shit happens.

This is a new disease we don't have a vaccine for.

Why is it so hard from some people to just heed a warning and listen to what people who know far more about it than you ever will are saying.

Of course. Comparing something present day to a flu from 100 years ago makes much more sense (one that only became disastrous because of hygiene, malnourishment, and medical camp/hospital issues that were much, much worse back then, no less).

As does creating a huge dent in the economy, especially for small businesses and struggling blue-collar workers. Over just the fear of much worse lethal mutations that, given how the situation in China is starting to subside already, might be just a remote possibility