'52 Topps red vs. black backs

[cardsagain74]

Here are the latest graded Rizzuto sales:

PSA 5 $178 black

SGC 4 $62 red (mine)

PSA 3 $78 red

PSA 4.5 $160 red

PSA 1.5 $58 black

PSA 1 $30 red

BVG 4 $90 black

PSA 4 $96 red

SGC 4 $83 black

PSA 2.5 $60 red

PSA 5 $200 red

From that small sample size, there doesn't appear to be much of a difference in what people are paying for r/b. Maybe a very slight premium for black that's negligible at most

[irv]

Originally Posted by cardsagain74

From that small sample size, there doesn't appear to be much of a difference in what people are paying for r/b. Maybe a very slight premium for black that's negligible at most

Maybe times have changed and the R/B cards are more equal now, I don't know?
Like in the 2 previous articles I posted above, which I didn't write, of course, this one also talks about the Blacks being more scare and worth slightly more than the reds. Keep in mind this was written in 97 so likely a lot that was written in it no longer holds true either?

https://www.psacard.com/articles/art...-ever-produced

[cardsagain74]

Originally Posted by irv

Maybe times have changed and the R/B cards are more equal now, I don't know?
Like in the 2 previous articles I posted above, which I didn't write, of course, this one also talks about the Blacks being more scare and worth slightly more than the reds. Keep in mind this was written in 97 so likely a lot that was written in it no longer holds true either?

https://www.psacard.com/articles/art...-ever-produced

Those articles are interesting. I wasn't trying to prove you wrong or right. Just trying to get to the bottom of the current marketplace for the different backs

A side note that's totally unrelated to this: when I was looking at the PSA pops for '52 Topps, I was very surprised to see that the high numbers have just as many graded cards as the rest of the set.

Regardless of any graded/ungraded or hoarding dynamics...with the rep that the high numbers have for being SO scarce, I would not have expected an equal number of slabbed ones to exist vs low numbers

[Republicaninmass]

This is solely because a high number in psa 1-3 is worth grading, where as commons are not.

[cardsagain74]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

This is solely because a high number in psa 1-3 is worth grading, where as commons are not.

Yep that's the norm in general. But in this case, while there are a few more PSA 1 and 2 high numbers out there, it's just around 50 per card total of 1-2s (high numbers) vs about 10-20 total per card of low numbers. Everything grade 3 and above is the same.

PSA 1s and 2s are just 10% of the overall '52 T high # graded population and 3-4% of the graded low number population. That's such a small part of all the graded '52T in existence that I don't think it can pinpointed as the sole factor for any overall numbers.

Also, the higher graded pops are even more bizarre to me. At least with the lower grades, you can still delve into the whole "there seem to be many, many more ungraded beater low # commons out there vs the high numbers" side of it. But with how anything '52T that should get at least a 7 is likely to get graded (including the commons), how can there be just as many PSA 7 + first series cards as high numbers?

With how few low numbers exist in those grades, you'd think that similar grade high numbers would be that much more rare

[Republicaninmass]

Al rosen find of high numbers

[cardsagain74]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Al rosen find of high numbers

Ah. I hadn't thought of just how much that one find could skew the numbers, but tis true.