CAS authentications by Mike Root ;reputable?

[Topnotchsy]

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

These were authenticated by CAS.

One seller on Ebay sold four "Derek Jeter" autograph cards. All certed by CAS.

I'm not here to state that CAS is not a decent/honest authenticator, but I am disappointed that they "authenticated" these.

Here are two of them. The same seller also sold one of those forged/counterfeit Kobe Bryant cards.

WTF!!!

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Below is a forged Jeter on a "1996 Leaf Signature" card.

These all originate from northern NJ.

Whoever penned the above Jeter crap, also penned the below "Jeter."

I have tons of images and files on this crap. I will also state, that the forger of the various cards that I have exposed is improving on their "Jeter."

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I'm not an auto expert, but have seen a ton of Jeter autos over the years.

What's wrong with these? They look like early Jeter autos to me...?

(Asking seriously, not being sarcastic)

[thetruthisoutthere]

What year are they from?

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by Topnotchsy

I'm not an auto expert, but have seen a ton of Jeter autos over the years.

What's wrong with these? They look like early Jeter autos to me...?

(Asking seriously, not being sarcastic)

What year would you say those so-called Jeter autographs are from?

[Topnotchsy]

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

What year would you say those so-called Jeter autographs are from?

Given that they are cards that were inserted into packs, I don't have guess the years.

Classic was 1992, Signature Rookies was 1994 and Leaf was 1996.

I double-checked and the Leaf one was literally inserted into packs signed. I attached a BGS graded example. There are many PSA ones as well.

And for Classic and Signature Rookies Jeter literally signed over 10,000 copies that were inserted into packs. I'm not knowledgeable to know whether these were pack inserted autographs or not (my gut is that those two are not). The style looks similar to me to the mid-90's, although you seem extremely confident that is not the case...

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by Topnotchsy

Given that they are cards that were inserted into packs, I don't have guess the years.

Classic was 1992, Signature Rookies was 1994 and Leaf was 1996.

I double-checked and the Leaf one was literally inserted into packs signed. I attached a BGS graded example. There are many PSA ones as well.

And for Classic and Signature Rookies Jeter literally signed over 10,000 copies that were inserted into packs. I'm not knowledgeable to know whether these were pack inserted autographs or not (my gut is that those two are not). The style looks similar to me to the mid-90's, although you seem extremely confident that is not the case...

Not one of those "Jeter" autographs "certed" by CAS were pack-pulled.

That's a fact.

[Duluth Eskimo]

Just to be straight forward, I don't know CSA or Mike Root. I saw him set up at the National, but I don't think I have spoke with him. I have no reason to doubt what you guys are saying about him being a good guy and in it for the right reasons. I was just posting a face that Jose aka us_caine seems to have a number of items "authenticated" by CSA, but Jose beats the other guys too.

I primarily post this stuff to prevent any Net45 ers from losing money. I have no other interest.

I have mentioned before that I buy and sell a fair amount of autographs and I do use authentication when I sell my items. They sell for more and the buyer feels better about buying the item rather than just relying on someone's word that they don't know. This isn't an authentication rant, just a notice so if someone knows CSA pass the word along.

This is a link to us_caine

https://www.ebay.com/sch/us_caine/m....p2047675.l2562

[Topnotchsy]

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

Not one of those "Jeter" autographs "certed" by CAS were pack-pulled.

That's a fact.

Even the one that has "authentic autograph" printed on the card (the Leaf one)?

As stated, I'm not close to enough of an expert to say you are wrong, and I don't own a single Jeter autograph, so I have no skin in the game, but I'd love to understand how you are so sure?

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by Topnotchsy

Even the one that has "authentic autograph" printed on the card (the Leaf one)?

As stated, I'm not close to enough of an expert to say you are wrong, and I don't own a single Jeter autograph, so I have no skin in the game, but I'd love to understand how you are so sure?

CAS did not cert the "1996 Leaf Signature" forgery. That is also a counterfeit card.

That counterfeit card was produced by the same ring that are counterfeiting Jeter, Mays, Unitas, Koufax, Harper and other cards.

[Duluth Eskimo]

I will also add that the seller does have items that I believe are good and has sold quality items recently that I believe are good. Many are not so I’m not sure if someone is consigning items to him or if he is just hiding he garbage in with good stuff. I will state that I believe a number of authenticated items he is selling are garbage. Many if not all of the non authenticated cards are forgeries as well as stuff like Puckett, Bo Jackson, Walter Payton, and others. I have seen him sell a number of Rickey Henderson items that I believe are garbage. Judge for yourself, but I’m convinced otherwise. Carry on with the Jeter discussion.