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Old 02-25-2020, 01:17 PM
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This hobby is ridiculous.

(and i'm mostly referring to the market incentives for cleaning cards in the first place, not the service itself)
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Old 02-25-2020, 02:31 PM
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Yep, it used to be a hobby that honored and revered history and its past players.

Now it’s become a vehicle for quick flippers, profits, greed, ego and wealthy (yet clueless) collectors afflicted with severe OCD.

I bet PSA wishes they could do so some banning and censoring of that Facebook Group. It has to be somewhat embarrassing for them to be “played” like that in such public fashion.
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Old 02-25-2020, 02:36 PM
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Yep, it used to be a hobby that honored and revered history and its past players.

Now it’s become a vehicle for quick flippers, profits, greed, ego and wealthy (yet clueless) collectors afflicted with severe OCD.

I bet PSA wishes they could do so some banning and censoring of that Facebook Group. It has to be somewhat embarrassing for them to be “played” like that in such public fashion.
Teflon PSA doesn't care whatsoever. In fact, they might have already privately message them inviting them to the next seminar on how they grade cards and what graders look for.
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Default Seriously WTF is this? Card doctors are acceptable now?

So technically - yeah, but this is nothing new. I think YouTube videos on how to clean / remove fingerprints, etc. from shiny new modern cards have been around since before the first of the PWCC revelations. I don't know, I don't collect modern, so find it pretty hard to get fired-up about more card doctoring suspicions there when we have more than enough to go around here each week with vintage cards.
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All niches have been affected it seems.

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So technically - yeah, but this is nothing new. I think YouTube videos on how to clean / remove fingerprints, etc. from shiny new modern cards have been around since before the first of the PWCC revelations. I don't know, I don't collect modern, so find it pretty hard to get fired-up about more card doctoring suspicions there when we have more than enough to go around here each week with vintage cards.
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There are modern card collectors that buff out scratches from chrome cards using Meguiar's car wax. This guy is probably just using a microfiber eyeglass cloth to remove fingerprints, which can improve a grade like 1.5 points from an 8.5 to a 10.
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I don't have a problem with taking something off of a card (not the borders ) as long as a solvent isn't used, other than water. That is a big spread for taking fingerprints off.

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