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Old 02-22-2020, 04:34 PM
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What would you like me to add to the auction? Honestly. I'm not going to say "these are all secretarial", because I don't know that. I didn't ignore the opinions, I've taken them into account and described what I believe in the auction. I really don't know what else you want me to say. People have to look at it and form their own opinions and do research. Do I have to lead them right to this thread?
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Added this to the auction:

Since I've gotten some inquiries about the ball, let me say it perfectly plainly. SOME OR ALL OF THESE SIGNATURES MAY BE SECRETARIAL. I do not know for sure. There was a Dodger batboy named Charlie "The Brow" DiGiovanna who was known to sign in place of many of the players. Either way, a very cool piece of Dodgers memorabilia.
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I think anyone who bids at this point should understand, and if they don't they have no business bidding on the ball at all.
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Old 02-22-2020, 05:02 PM
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Since I've gotten some inquiries about the ball, let me say it perfectly plainly. SOME OR ALL OF THESE SIGNATURES MAY BE SECRETARIAL. I do not know for sure. There was a Dodger batboy named Charlie "The Brow" DiGiovanna who was known to sign in place of many of the players. Either way, a very cool piece of Dodgers memorabilia.
The PSA letter, which you are referring to in your listing, says all 3 baseballs it inspected in that lot were clubhouse signatures. If any were deemed authentic, they would list those separately. They didn't bother, because all were deemed clubhouse. I know you are finding this hard to believe, but none are authentic. It isn't even one of Charlie's better works.

I also think you should have "Clubhouse signatures" with an explanation of what that means, prominently displayed at the top of your description. While I agree with you that bidders should read everything, if it were me, I would have Clubhouse at the top.

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Old 02-23-2020, 12:27 AM
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... I'm not going to say "these are all secretarial", because I don't know that...
Actually, based on the letter from the paid opinion givers, you DO know that.

Doug "blaming the bidders is an easy way out" Goodman

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Old 02-23-2020, 09:05 AM
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I agree with others that your Ebay listing is "Bad Behavior " on many levels. If you really believed that you are right and the folks here that offered you their free opinions based on combined decades if not centuries of experience are wrong. About even ONE of the signatures then you would send it to PSA and see what they say.
Oh Sorry ,My Bad, PSA has already said they were all Clubhouse.
So the only reason you would even suggest in your listing that one or more of the signatures was real is because you have bad intent.
I wonder if after you sell the ball the buyer starts a return because the listing made statements that led them to believe it is something it is not. Will you refund all their money and let them keep the ball?
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I wonder if after you sell the ball the buyer starts a return because the listing made statements that led them to believe it is something it is not.
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Other than the ethics involved, that is a major reason why It is best to state all the issues up front, since a buyer could easily say they were deceived by your statements.

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