Class action suit filed against PSA, PWCC and Probstein

[vintagebaseballcardguy]

Originally Posted by 100backstroke

This scandal is now not new. There has been plenty of time to sit back, reflect, weigh opinions, digest this whole mess, and come up with a game plan for your own collecting. Personally, I put all buying of significant (to me) cards on hold and doubt I pick up anything new of significant value anytime soon. I still enjoy collecting, however, and have changed to collecting new raw cards of the current players I like - Yelich, Trout, Steph Curry, Giannis, few others. But darn them (PSA), really sucks what they have let through. I blame them more than anyone. They are supposed to be the professionals. They have failed doing their job. If they were on the ball, had caught the majority of alterations, and slabbed accordingly, this hobby wouldn't be in this mess to begin with.

Not to a great extent, but I have also dabbled in raw modern singles of current players. I haven't totally stopped buying vintage, but I have changed the way I scratch my baseball card itch. I also have learned to love low grade vintage issues that I am familiar with from reliable sources.

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[CMIZ5290]

PSA is obviously crooked to some degree, but this board is Pro SGC, they are equally dirty.... I know for a fact of an incident where SGC graded a high profile HOF T206 as an SGC 84 originally several years ago. Then at a show, they promptly bumped it to an 88 holder.....3 months later, the card was bumped to an SGC 92 holder.... Then, 3 weeks later, the card was put in an SGC 96 holder...Same card, three bumps in 90 days. The value on this card of a grade of 7 versus a grade of 9 is tens of thousands of dollars, same card with all of these bumps,just different holders, and you can imagine who the player might be.... This shit is all over the place with grading Companies, and if you think the graders aren't corrupted by bribes, you are living in Fantasyland at Disney World....

[BeanTown]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

PSA is obviously crooked to some degree, but this board is Pro SGC, they are equally dirty.... I know for a fact of an incident where SGC graded a high profile HOF T206 as an SGC 84 originally several years ago. Then at a show, they promptly bumped it to an 88 holder.....3 months later, the card was bumped to an SGC 92 holder.... Then, 3 weeks later, the card was put in an SGC 96 holder...Same card, three bumps in 90 days. The value on this card of a grade of 7 versus a grade of 9 is tens of thousands of dollars, same card with all of these bumps.... This shit is all over the place with grading Companies, and if you think the graders aren't corrupted by bribes, you are living in Fantasyland at Disney World....

Its a conspiracy, says all the trimmers and people using relationships to get favors done.

[tschock]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

PSA is obviously crooked to some degree, but this board is Pro SGC, they are equally dirty.... I know for a fact of an incident where SGC graded a high profile HOF T206 as an SGC 84 originally several years ago. Then at a show, they promptly bumped it to an 88 holder.....3 months later, the card was bumped to an SGC 92 holder.... Then, 3 weeks later, the card was put in an SGC 96 holder...Same card, three bumps in 90 days. The value on this card of a grade of 7 versus a grade of 9 is tens of thousands of dollars, same card with all of these bumps,just different holders, and you can imagine who the player might be.... This shit is all over the place with grading Companies, and if you think the graders aren't corrupted by bribes, you are living in Fantasyland at Disney World....

On the plus side, it's a great turn-around time. Who wants to wait 6 months each submission to get that kind of bump?

[Stampsfan]

Originally Posted by tschock

On the plus side, it's a great turn-around time. Who wants to wait 6 months each submission to get that kind of bump?

Ok that’s clever..
thanks for the chuckle.

[conor912]

It’s laughable how collectors continue to shake their fist with one hand and write large checks with the other.

[drcy]

Originally Posted by conor912

It’s laughable how collectors continue to shake their fist with one hand and write large checks with the other.

That explains why the handwriting is shaky. I thought there was wave of Parkinson's sweeping through the hobby.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by drcy

That explains why the handwriting is shaky. I thought there was wave of Parkinson's sweeping through the hobby.

No that was how forgers got SGC to authenticate "old" players autographs

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by conor912

It’s laughable how collectors continue to shake their fist with one hand and write large checks with the other.

Worse than laughable...It's a detriment to the hobby.