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Old 02-20-2020, 11:41 AM
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Cliff, since you first posted about this, I have found a few....the Roberts, DaVanon and Bibby I had not seen before. What is interesting is that some copies of the same card have varying levels of this anomaly showing. The Foster I show has much less than yours and on the two Dobson cards the difference is quite noticeable. The Bonham and Reed are non-related variants.
You are right about the varying degrees, ideally I am trying to end up with examples that are 50/50 right down the middle. My Alan Foster goes a little too far and I would like to end up with one closer to yours. I have a Boisclair but it doesn't match the pattern at all, too large and it wound up on the wrong side. Your Bibby would fit in perfectly because it is roughly 50/50, and your Dobson would be a better example than mine. I believe you also have an Aurelio Rodriguez that is a better example than mine. The Roberts and the DaVanon are from different sheets, I have some that are from different sheets but they are so rare and random that I haven't been able to pick up patterns of which cards are affected on those sheets. The Bonham is on a different sheet and is recurring. It also affects the Tiant next to it, but it is much less on the Tiant.
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Takes a lot to impress me given that I've been chasing printing flaws for years, but these two definitely got my attention:



1971 Topps blackless



1972 Topps flipped stock.

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Takes a lot to impress me given that I've been chasing printing flaws for years, but these two definitely got my attention:
The 1971 looks like a progressive proof to me.
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I thought so too but the back is completely printed.

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I thought so too but the back is completely printed.
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Not sure if you remember, but a few years ago there was a thread on a 1971 Steve Garvey card that looked like the Cards team picture with the blue color borders and looked a bit unfinished. That Garvey card had the finished back as well. I remember Steve (steve B) stating it's possible they weren't progressive proofs, but were unfinished in some way at the printers (at least that's how I remember it; I may have to look it up).
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Some of these have been on ebay for awhile. Regular backs



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You are right about the varying degrees, ideally I am trying to end up with examples that are 50/50 right down the middle. My Alan Foster goes a little too far and I would like to end up with one closer to yours. I have a Boisclair but it doesn't match the pattern at all, too large and it wound up on the wrong side. Your Bibby would fit in perfectly because it is roughly 50/50, and your Dobson would be a better example than mine. I believe you also have an Aurelio Rodriguez that is a better example than mine. The Roberts and the DaVanon are from different sheets, I have some that are from different sheets but they are so rare and random that I haven't been able to pick up patterns of which cards are affected on those sheets. The Bonham is on a different sheet and is recurring. It also affects the Tiant next to it, but it is much less on the Tiant.
Thank you for letting me know about the Bonham, I did not know that was recurring. The Meyer card below has a near equal amount of coverage... I also came across the second Meyer with the hat distortion variation/one-off. The Pablo card is interesting because both copies have the recurring mark on the hat, but only one has the has this recurring anomaly. I wonder if a copy exists with the print anomaly and no mark on the hat? I have two with the anomaly and both have the hat flaw. The Hartzell card has what appears to me to be an unrelated spill, but I am not sure it if is part of this anomaly or not....
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I’ve never seen that 77 Dan Meyer with the print defects on the hat before, it freaked me out when I saw it. Every 77 Pablo Torrealba that I have ever seen with the ink washout flaw also has the lightning bolts by his head, I have never seen with the washout without the bolts.
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