1870's baseball team cabinet--Team, Player I.D.?

[bmarlowe1]

It seems that the photo in hand is just too blurry to be sure. I can't prove it's not him - that's all I can say.


It would help to know the team and if he was on it.

[RCMcKenzie]

Thank you very much for chiming in, Mark. I guess this cabinet will remain a mystery for now. Maybe I can learn more in the future and report back. Here are more pictures from my scanner with higher settings, not really any sharper that I can see...Rob

[smokelessjoe]

See thread from this time last year. Perhaps some clues???


https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=265958

[RCMcKenzie]

Thank you, Shawn, for finding that thread. This should help a lot. It's great that JC has the same cabinet...Rob

[packs]

Do you have any evidence that shows Esterbrook ever played semi-pro ball in Brooklyn? Brooklyn would have still been considered it's own city at the time this photo was taken. Everything I read has Esterbrook being born in Staten Island and playing his professional ball in Manhattan.

[RCMcKenzie]

Packs, here's what baseball-reference has...He played all over the place, including New Orleans, where he reportedly walked back to NY from after being booed at the end of his career. I'm going by GaryP's opinion that the mount is 1880+. I thought the bibs were earlier, but I really do not know.

1880 Buffalo 64 games 23 years old
1881 NY Mets ECAS
1882 Cleveland NL
1882 NY LGAL
1883 NY METS
1884 NY METS
1885 NY Giants
1886 NY Giants J Wood Cabinet shown
1887 NY Mets
1888 TOT Toronto?
1888 Indy
1888 Louisville
1889 Louisville
1889 London, Ontario
1890 NY Giants
1891 Brooklyn Grooms
1892 Westfield, NJ
1894 New Orleans


Could the team be Westfield, NJ circa 1880 and he went back in 1892? The seller thought it was 'Washington DC.' JC's cabinet is identified on the back as "Baltimore". Lots of questions...

[packs]

I only bring it up because New York and Brooklyn would have been two entirely separate entities at the time. That's why the Brooklyn Dodgers were the Brooklyn Dodgers and never the New York Dodgers. I think if he had played in Brooklyn for a Brooklyn team you would see it on his record. I only see New York (for the estimated time period of the photo).