1965 Sandy Koufax Game Used and Autographed Jersey (Many new photos)

[JoeDfan]

I think it is spectacular!

But I am no authentication expert; and I do not apparently have the "eye" for what Scott is referring to.

I hope it is the real deal though, because it is gorgeous!

[rlevy]

Looks like the Spalding label has 2 sets of holes in the picture. If so, it was repurposed from another jersey.

Rick

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by rlevy

Looks like the Spalding label has 2 sets of holes in the picture. If so, it was repurposed from another jersey.

Rick

Which is how I feel about the number, the "Dodgers" etc. it's a franken-jersey. I don't think there's any realistic chance it was worn by Koufax.

[Sean1125]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Which is how I feel about the number, the "Dodgers" etc. it's a franken-jersey. I don't think there's any realistic chance it was worn by Koufax.

There are no additional stitch marks anywhere else on the jersey to support that. I'd really appreciate if you would refrain from commenting anymore on this thread, I believe your comments today have been overwhelmingly negative and do not add anything constructive to the conversation.

Sean

[rlevy]

Size tag also looks like it has open stitching, and I have never seen Koufax pictured with set-in sleeves versus raglan.

So, I have also checked my database, and it appears that this very jersey received a UTA from MEARS for a variety of reasons a couple of years ago. Or it has an identical twin. Are you aware of this?

Rick

[Sean1125]

Originally Posted by rlevy

Size tag also looks like it has open stitching, and I have never seen Koufax pictured with set-in sleeves versus raglan.

So, I have also checked my database, and it appears that this very jersey received a UTA from MEARS for a variety of reasons a couple of years ago. Or it has an identical twin. Are you aware of this?

Rick

Rick,

Thank you for your comments. Based on how the transaction is happening, I do not believe this would be the same jersey you are referencing (owner responsible for all authentication fees even if fail). I would find it hard to believe if the owner knew it was bad he would be willing to enter in to that arrangement. If you would like to email me pictures I would keep them confidential and do my best to compare.

Does UTA mean unable to authenticate?

Sean

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Sean1125

There are no additional stitch marks anywhere else on the jersey to support that. I'd really appreciate if you would refrain from commenting anymore on this thread, I believe your comments today have been overwhelmingly negative and do not add anything constructive to the conversation.

Sean

Responding to an older post in this thread.
Completely disagree.
Yes his comments do add something to the conversation just not what you want to hear. If you don't like them then don't ask on the forum. I think his comments are on point and constructive.

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[Sean1125]

Originally Posted by rlevy

Looks like the Spalding label has 2 sets of holes in the picture. If so, it was repurposed from another jersey.

Rick

Rick, thank you for your observation. Do you have any other comments as to the other areas of the jersey?

Sean

[steve B]

Well, that's interesting.

As someone who has a total of two uniform parts, a jersey and a warmup jacket, and hasn't gotten into the details..

Nothing but questions!
I went looking for other game used jerseys from 65, and was puzzled.
The home jerseys were made by two companies? Both Spalding and McAuliffe?
And the road jerseys by Rawlings?
Is that normal?

To me it's weird that the Spalding label has extra holes, while it doesn't look like any of the other parts do. Looking at a different Spalding jersey it looks like the stitches were on an angle, which would make two rows of holes. But the stitching here is finer and straighter..
https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball-c...a/7075-81716.s
But of all the bits to repurpose, the Spalding label wouldn't be my first choice.

What I was actually looking for was the Dodgers lettering. Now there's a thing that looks like a problem. I can see maybe a bunch of fraying after it left the team. I didn't see any that looked bad at all in any pics I found. However, the g-e transition is really heavy, and I also couldn't find any pics of a dodgers jersey that had that same heavy handed transition.

The button placement is also different than others.

If it was my money I think I'd say no, but I could be wrong.

[Sean1125]

Originally Posted by steve B

Well, that's interesting.

As someone who has a total of two uniform parts, a jersey and a warmup jacket, and hasn't gotten into the details..

Nothing but questions!
I went looking for other game used jerseys from 65, and was puzzled.
The home jerseys were made by two companies? Both Spalding and McAuliffe?
And the road jerseys by Rawlings?
Is that normal?

To me it's weird that the Spalding label has extra holes, while it doesn't look like any of the other parts do. Looking at a different Spalding jersey it looks like the stitches were on an angle, which would make two rows of holes. But the stitching here is finer and straighter..
https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball-c...a/7075-81716.s
But of all the bits to repurpose, the Spalding label wouldn't be my first choice.

What I was actually looking for was the Dodgers lettering. Now there's a thing that looks like a problem. I can see maybe a bunch of fraying after it left the team. I didn't see any that looked bad at all in any pics I found. However, the g-e transition is really heavy, and I also couldn't find any pics of a dodgers jersey that had that same heavy handed transition.

The button placement is also different than others.

If it was my money I think I'd say no, but I could be wrong.

Steve,

Thanks for your comments. I missed the Spalding label having two sets of holes top and bottom. Thank you for that. Also the G-E, I checked the MLB site referenced earlier and couldn't find one that heavy.

To everyone,

If this is not a game used jersey (I am sure hoping it is), where would it fall into price and description range? An autographed jersey or something else? I obviously do not want the owner to have to pay authentication fees if it can be declared 100% NG prior to sending them off.

Sean

[rlevy]

Sean, the jersey I am referring to received the Unable to Authenticate in July 2016. Was it possible that the father sent it to Mears back then, and the son doesn't know about it? You didn't mention when the son inherited it.

Rick

[Sean1125]

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[rlevy]

sending an e-mail to you.

Rick

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by Sean1125

There are no additional stitch marks anywhere else on the jersey to support that. I'd really appreciate if you would refrain from commenting anymore on this thread, I believe your comments today have been overwhelmingly negative and do not add anything constructive to the conversation.

Sean

Originally Posted by Sean1125

To everyone,

If this is not a game used jersey (I am sure hoping it is), where would it fall into price and description range? An autographed jersey or something else? I obviously do not want the owner to have to pay authentication fees if it can be declared 100% NG prior to sending them off.

Sean

If you want honest (and free) opinions, why silence people who express valid concerns about it? Do you want to learn the truth, or just hear good news?

[Sean1125]

Originally Posted by Mark17

If you want honest (and free) opinions, why silence people who express valid concerns about it? Do you want to learn the truth, or just hear good news?

Hey Mark,

As you can see by my replies to people who are constructive, I am open to feedback. That's why I posted. What I am not open to is someone who is having a bad day flinging insults because they feel like it. I have communicated with several people via email and I am sure they would verify I have been happily open to their healthily communicated constructive opinions.

Regards,

Sean

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by Sean1125

Hey Mark,

As you can see by my replies to people who are constructive, I am open to feedback. That's why I posted. What I am not open to is someone who is having a bad day flinging insults because they feel like it. I have communicated with several people via email and I am sure they would verify I have been happily open to their healthily communicated constructive opinions.

Regards,

Sean

Grey Flannel says it's a display jersey and has it at auction now:

https://www.greyflannelauctions.com/...-LOT46052.aspx